Current Affairs Belarus…and migrants…..

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It has taken on different associations now and acts only to dehumanise the people in need. You would also, rarely refer to a westerner moving to another country as a migrant. It’s like there is a hierarchy of value in names attached to people moving between countries, with ex-pat (usually white) at the top and migrants (usually non-white) at the bottom.
Ex-pat: someone who organises their move to another country, with finances and a job in place (unless retirees relying on savings) and having taken steps in advance to rent / purchase a home;

Migrant: typically not an organised relocation as described above. No pre-existing plan for housing or work, very limited existing finances (if any). By default, a far larger proportion of people fleeing persecution or war will do so in such a hurried fashion that they cannot take the steps that would facilitate an orderly move to another country.

It is vitally important to accept that there are a VAST range of factors that will contribute towards someone finding themselves in the position of being a migrant, and that some people are more likely than others, by merit of their birthplace and upbringing, to have the luxury of being ABLE to organise their affairs to the degree necessary to take the approach that I've described as an ex-pat.

It's not fair, and far more should be done to improve life for those in desperate need. But the terms "ex-pat" and "migrant" are not interchangeable, nor are they differentiated solely on skin colour. That's a simplistic view which does nothing to solve the issues and serves only to fuel the divisive narratives that various governments and opposition parties thrive on to drum up support.

The people massing on the Belarussian / Polish border are not ex-pats, they are migrants. But this is not because of their racial, religious or cultural heritage, it's because of the circumstances that forced the hurried departure from their previous homes.

IMHO.
 
Ex-pat: someone who organises their move to another country, with finances and a job in place (unless retirees relying on savings) and having taken steps in advance to rent / purchase a home;

Migrant: typically not an organised relocation as described above. No pre-existing plan for housing or work, very limited existing finances (if any). By default, a far larger proportion of people fleeing persecution or war will do so in such a hurried fashion that they cannot take the steps that would facilitate an orderly move to another country.

It is vitally important to accept that there are a VAST range of factors that will contribute towards someone finding themselves in the position of being a migrant, and that some people are more likely than others, by merit of their birthplace and upbringing, to have the luxury of being ABLE to organise their affairs to the degree necessary to take the approach that I've described as an ex-pat.

It's not fair, and far more should be done to improve life for those in desperate need. But the terms "ex-pat" and "migrant" are not interchangeable, nor are they differentiated solely on skin colour. That's a simplistic view which does nothing to solve the issues and serves only to fuel the divisive narratives that various governments and opposition parties thrive on to drum up support.

The people massing on the Belarussian / Polish border are not ex-pats, they are migrants. But this is not because of their racial, religious or cultural heritage, it's because of the circumstances that forced the hurried departure from their previous homes.

IMHO.
Totally disagree. Are Eastern Europeans that come to the U.K. referred to as ex-pats? Of course not. Are British people who go to say Portugal referred to as migrants? Nope.
It’s a hierarchal nomenclature based on how the country of origin is perceived.
 
Ex-pat: someone who organises their move to another country, with finances and a job in place (unless retirees relying on savings) and having taken steps in advance to rent / purchase a home;

Migrant: typically not an organised relocation as described above. No pre-existing plan for housing or work, very limited existing finances (if any). By default, a far larger proportion of people fleeing persecution or war will do so in such a hurried fashion that they cannot take the steps that would facilitate an orderly move to another country.

It is vitally important to accept that there are a VAST range of factors that will contribute towards someone finding themselves in the position of being a migrant, and that some people are more likely than others, by merit of their birthplace and upbringing, to have the luxury of being ABLE to organise their affairs to the degree necessary to take the approach that I've described as an ex-pat.

It's not fair, and far more should be done to improve life for those in desperate need. But the terms "ex-pat" and "migrant" are not interchangeable, nor are they differentiated solely on skin colour. That's a simplistic view which does nothing to solve the issues and serves only to fuel the divisive narratives that various governments and opposition parties thrive on to drum up support.

The people massing on the Belarussian / Polish border are not ex-pats, they are migrants. But this is not because of their racial, religious or cultural heritage, it's because of the circumstances that forced the hurried departure from their previous homes.

IMHO.
I'm not sure quite where you've pulled that distinction from, nor how it's even remotely helpful?
 
I see that the U.K. has sent engineering troops to help Poland with this border issue. It’s a pity we don’t get invited to send others to France to stop them doing the exact same thing as Belarus….
Is this for real? Sod the poor buggers freezing to death, lets help out our totalitarian chum with a bigger fence. Ffs, what has happened to Britain. We used to be the country of Nicholas Winton.
 
Is this for real? Sod the poor buggers freezing to death, lets help out our totalitarian chum with a bigger fence. Ffs, what has happened to Britain. We used to be the country of Nicholas Winton.

Apparently, it’s getting a little bit bigger than a migrant issue. Mishandled, this could end up with people in Poland, Belarus and Ukraine getting shot….
 
Ex-pat: someone who organises their move to another country, with finances and a job in place (unless retirees relying on savings) and having taken steps in advance to rent / purchase a home;

Migrant: typically not an organised relocation as described above. No pre-existing plan for housing or work, very limited existing finances (if any). By default, a far larger proportion of people fleeing persecution or war will do so in such a hurried fashion that they cannot take the steps that would facilitate an orderly move to another country.

It is vitally important to accept that there are a VAST range of factors that will contribute towards someone finding themselves in the position of being a migrant, and that some people are more likely than others, by merit of their birthplace and upbringing, to have the luxury of being ABLE to organise their affairs to the degree necessary to take the approach that I've described as an ex-pat.

It's not fair, and far more should be done to improve life for those in desperate need. But the terms "ex-pat" and "migrant" are not interchangeable, nor are they differentiated solely on skin colour. That's a simplistic view which does nothing to solve the issues and serves only to fuel the divisive narratives that various governments and opposition parties thrive on to drum up support.

The people massing on the Belarussian / Polish border are not ex-pats, they are migrants. But this is not because of their racial, religious or cultural heritage, it's because of the circumstances that forced the hurried departure from their previous homes.

IMHO.
Don't think people call the Polish who sorted both work and housing before they relocated in the UK 'expats' mate.

But if you are a Swede living in Qatar you are defo an expat ?
 
Put your Risk board away Pete.

You really must look at the bigger picture Bruce…I‘ve said before that Russia wants a buffer zone between itself and the West. That means Ukraine, Belarus (tick), and the Baltic states. This is not some childish game, this is real life power politics and actions being played out in front of us all...and with our current lack of leadership from the WH, it’s the perfect time to do it. Russia will push into the west and China will push into Taiwan……
 
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You really must look at the bigger picture Bruce…I‘ve said before that Russia wants a buffer zone between itself and the West. That means Ukraine, Belarus (tick), and the Baltic states. This is not some childish game, this is real life power politics and actions being played out in front of us all...and with our current lack of leadership from the WH, it’s the perfect time to do it. Russia will push into the west and China will push into Taiwan……
And wanted us out of the EU. Tick.
 
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You really must look at the bigger picture Bruce…I‘ve said before that Russia wants a buffer zone between itself and the West. That means Ukraine, Belarus (tick), and the Baltic states. This is not some childish game, this is real life power politics and actions being played out in front of us all...and with our current lack of leadership from the WH, it’s the perfect time to do it. Russia will push into the west and China will push into Taiwan……
I don't doubt that Russia are involved, I just don't see why innocent people have to die in the Polish woods while the west figure out what to do. Stop the flights coming in, get the people to safety, figure out what to do with Belarus.

You seem happy to sacrifice the poor sods stuck out there with no food or shelter in order to saber rattle.
 
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