JobForTheMoyes
Player Valuation: £50m
You can definitely argue the red as it seems to have been given in violation of the law of the sport. They were challenging for the ball and there was no excessive force or violent intent.
pfim
Player Valuation: £50m
Me defending anything is completely unrelated to what the club does.
Wow… it’s almost as though because we have a badge they don’t like, they penalise only us
Gilbert..
Player Valuation: £60m
Kin hell. You're going on like he's been shot.
If the on field ref see's that its a yellow card offence. Red if its a really violent pull. But you're talking proper drag him to the ground.
What we've got now is a group of wanna be famous refs who can not wait to get involved because it makes them the centre of attention. Its every game. Look at me. We are here and we can stop the game. It kills them not pressing the button sitting in that portakabin or whatever they're in.
Never met a ref down the years who wasnt obsessed with being the person in charge. Now they've been handed VAR. Christ give it another few months and scratching your arse will be pulled up as obscene on field gestures.
How can that be violent and studs down the calf not lol.
Its fkd up.
I thought it looked pretty much on purpose. Grabs and gives a yank.
I do think it's a soft red and more of a yellow in my view but I really can't see it as anything other than on purpose. He very specifically gets a handful of hair and yanks it.
JobForTheMoyes
Player Valuation: £50m
Anything looks deliberate in slow motion. And it wasn’t violent conduct, so at most yellow.
VAR only has the power to intervene for red card offenses and this is a soft yellow never mind a red. Are we gonna start sending players off who miss the ball and header their opponent for “violent conduct?”
we never complain about anything, thought the red for Keane was very harsh yet I expect us to just drop our kecks and meekly accept it, we are the footballing equivalent of the perfect cuckold. Grealish had lost his head, but Moyes should have saw that and substituted him, yet a few weeks ago VVD done exactly the same sarcastically applauded the ref, yet no yellow card, what's the difference, for me the badge.
The ref didn't call this, it was a var call, have a guess who, Chris Kavanagh another ref who I feel has an eternal grudge against us along with Pawson, we should complain about these two especially, remember Clattenburg went years before he refereed against us again.
The ref didn't call this, it was a var call, have a guess who, Chris Kavanagh another ref who I feel has an eternal grudge against us along with Pawson, we should complain about these two especially, remember Clattenburg went years before he refereed against us again.
I'm just bored of it at this point.
HalfTimeSayers
Player Valuation: £35m
Really surprised the Keane Red has split opinion. Lots saying today pulling is instantly violent conduct and red. Factually wrong, that’s only the case if not challenging for the ball.
Since they were challenging, it just falls under the normal decision of was it or wasn’t it a foul. Personally I would say no, as you can put both arms round a player and wrestle them as long as you let go at the right time (bizarre). But wouldn’t have been bothered if he’d given a free kick at all. As long as applied consistently, great, give them a free kick and tell Keane to keep his hands down. No issue.
Don’t think the argument is whether he deliberately or accidentally had hold of his hair for 0.8 seconds. The issue is the ref has been TOLD to apply the instant “hair pulling is violent conduct” rule incorrectly by the puddings 200 miles away. He visibly completely bottled looking at the incident and pushing back on their incorrect suggestion.
The Hwang thing just makes the entire sport a farce when you have those 2 incidents within a matter of minutes and consider the 2 different outcomes from VAR/ref. It’s become pointless watching unless you have the money to just blow teams out of sight, then these “mistakes” don’t matter to you.
Since they were challenging, it just falls under the normal decision of was it or wasn’t it a foul. Personally I would say no, as you can put both arms round a player and wrestle them as long as you let go at the right time (bizarre). But wouldn’t have been bothered if he’d given a free kick at all. As long as applied consistently, great, give them a free kick and tell Keane to keep his hands down. No issue.
Don’t think the argument is whether he deliberately or accidentally had hold of his hair for 0.8 seconds. The issue is the ref has been TOLD to apply the instant “hair pulling is violent conduct” rule incorrectly by the puddings 200 miles away. He visibly completely bottled looking at the incident and pushing back on their incorrect suggestion.
The Hwang thing just makes the entire sport a farce when you have those 2 incidents within a matter of minutes and consider the 2 different outcomes from VAR/ref. It’s become pointless watching unless you have the money to just blow teams out of sight, then these “mistakes” don’t matter to you.
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
I genuinely don’t remember the last time a team against us got a red. Despite the fact we’ve had multiple awful challenges aganst us, and multiple second yellow offences against us
Abraders
Player Valuation: £60m
I saw some stat the other day that said it had been a few years but idk if that's true, certainly feels like it.
HappyJack
Player Valuation: £10m
Ive been involved in Football in 3 countries. My son plays professionaNever seen such a disgraceful decision. With VAR you can engineer decisions depending on the agenda.
True but when i was younger i hated playing with geezers having fanny haircuts swinging everywhere im totally on Keane’s side. In fact stupid haircuts should be banned…
