Current Affairs Anti-fascists (antifa), and a nationwide resistance of hate.

[sheedy3]

The orange order (a bunch of bells) marched down O'Connell street about 10 years ago and a bunch of scrotes in celtic jerseys went in to town and started throwing bits of paving slabs around. I don't remember anyone saying fair play to the skangers.
America is not sitting on it's hands, it just has different processes than Ireland or the UK. It's a far bigger place. The rise of the far right has also led to the womens march/the climate march/BLM marches/Immigrant rights marches. Millions of people have mobilized peacefully across the country and in November we'll see if that translates in to actual change. In the meantime a tiny handful of kids with their faces covered thinking they are in a video game cause more harm than good, just like those scrotes in the celtic jerseys who are just looking for a scrap. If you're all right with the kids in the celtic jerseys, you've got to be alright with the kids in the rangers jerseys building bonfires in the north.

Great rant..where are you from?

 

[Ruairi77]

Great rant..where are you from?

Drogheda

 

[Redstarrob]

The orange order (a bunch of bells) marched down O'Connell street about 10 years ago and a bunch of scrotes in celtic jerseys went in to town and started throwing bits of paving slabs around. I don't remember anyone saying fair play to the skangers.
America is not sitting on it's hands, it just has different processes than Ireland or the UK. It's a far bigger place. The rise of the far right has also led to the womens march/the climate march/BLM marches/Immigrant rights marches. Millions of people have mobilized peacefully across the country and in November we'll see if that translates in to actual change. In the meantime a tiny handful of kids with their faces covered thinking they are in a video game cause more harm than good, just like those scrotes in the celtic jerseys who are just looking for a scrap. If you're all right with the kids in the celtic jerseys, you've got to be alright with the kids in the rangers jerseys building bonfires in the north.

I'm from northern ireland, i was in a band for years and took part in many parades but i dont see any reason for the orange to walk on o'connell street

 

[Blue 1]

I thought protesting them just increased their platform:

 

[Number_25]

"Front-line warriors".

What a victim.

 

[Blue 1]

"Front-line warriors".

What a victim.

Yeah, it was pretty difficult to get through all the whinging. Poor Milo lol

 

[Number_25]

Yeah, it was pretty difficult to get through all the whinging. Poor Milo lol

Should probably stop saying terrible things.

 

[dead_soft]

It is. And the actions of Antifa are also abhorrent.

Don’t equate them. They are not the same. Some anti fascists may not have behaved brilliantly, but being anti fascist is a positive thing. ALL Far right and Free Tommy types have abhorrent views.

 

[dholliday]

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Should probably stop saying terrible things.

wow, he really has a high opinion of himself...where's that post from?


It's a shame he's wasted his obvious oratory skills & intelligence by acting too much like the court jester Jordan Peterson likens him to be.

I agree that this could be seen as a counter-example to the point I was making earlier that protesting only increases awareness, tho' with the caveat that Milo's very specific character makes his case somewhat tricky to categorise (british not American, flamboyantly gay, offensive joker but good speaker, attempts to make himself into some kind of cringey cult superstar, raking in money from his fans while not providing regular content etc). I enjoyed some of his debates for a while until I saw him come a cropper on the Joe Rogan podcast: Joe's very fair with people, but without really trying he shone a light in the weaknesses of Milo's game.

So I'd say it was Milo himself who's most responsible for him falling from the 15-minutes of fame chair, not so much the protests against him (which I still maintain helped catapult him to fame rather than the opposite).

 

[Prevenger17]

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Looooool. Head gone

 

[SteveSC]

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Seen as he is British of Greek origin if he feels threatened or that America hates him he could just leave. He only has a visa because of the work he does with the right wing media groups he works with. He doesn't even hold a US passport so trying to influence votes is silly as he should have no say as he cannot even vote.

 

[catcherintherye]

Antifa aren't active against Islamists (but are against the Far Right & Israel).
Just as 4th-wave feminists aren't actively against the sexism rife within Islam in Western societies (but are against much milder sexism from Western blokes).
Just as the West aren't actively against Saudi Arabia's war on Yemen (but are against Russia's legal support of Syria defending itself against rebel attacks).

Being that selective means there's no consistent ideology behind any of these movements who claim to be fighting for this & against that. Hence why they get criticised so much.

The hypocrisy of choosing easy battles isn't a good look.

I'm not sure on that mate. I know people who have gone to fight in Rojova against radical Islam. Far more than any fascist has ever done, who tend to march around English towns being a general nuisance.

Most feminists are very critical of misogyny in Islamic countries. I'd say too critical and they don't get the nuance but hey ho.

 

[dholliday]

I'm not sure on that mate. I know people who have gone to fight in Rojova against radical Islam. Far more than any fascist has ever done, who tend to march around English towns being a general nuisance.

I did link a piece a page or so back about how Antifa are hesitant, but it's admittedly from the German perspective.

Most feminists are very critical of misogyny in Islamic countries. I'd say too critical and they don't get the nuance but hey ho.

Traditional feminists, aye (myself included), but not the 4th-wave who dominate left-leaning social & news media.

 

[catcherintherye]

I did link a piece a page or so back about how Antifa are hesitant, but it's admittedly from the German perspective.



Traditional feminists, aye (myself included), but not the 4th-wave who dominate left-leaning social & news media.

Fair play mate. I don't think people really understand what fascism is. At some level lots involved with Antifa don't either, it's not JRM and it's certainly not Germaine Greer or Julie Bindel. I had one accuse me of being a Nazi in a round about way. Without incriminating myself too far, I did a lot more than chase a few old women discussing gender around when I was involved! There is clearly a problem in terms. Too many people think it means "bad person". Under that measurement I can see sense in why people would ask about radical islamism. If we use the measurement of what fascism is though, I'm not sure it's a particularly effective way to spend time or combat Islamism but thats my view I suppose.

Thats a fair point. Do you mean 3rd wave though? The 4th wave seem a bit of a mix, Laura Bates people like that.

 

[Steve0]

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Tidy your room, Milo.