Current Affairs Anti-fascists (antifa), and a nationwide resistance of hate.

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Ash Sarkar has written a piece for the Guardian, detailing the need for a "radical anti-fascist movement" as a means of bringing the working class together to fight against the rise of the extreme right.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/21/anti-fascist-movement-far-right


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Would be an interesting discussion to see here as we seem to have a nice spread of political ideologies present.
 
You don't counter a hateful ideology by attempting to be more hateful in return.

By doing so you are simply providing a counter-balance and thereby legitimising them, as they have something valid to fight against instead of being made to look ridiculous. You shouldn't legitimise them, ever; you should minimise them.
 
Ash Sarkar has written a piece for the Guardian, detailing the need for a "radical anti-fascist movement" as a means of bringing the working class together to fight against the rise of the extreme right.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/21/anti-fascist-movement-far-right


afa-interview-nf-james-poulter-384-1415968917.jpg


Would be an interesting discussion to see here as we seem to have a nice spread of political ideologies present.

The cowards haven't enabled comments. That's because the majority will be against the polarising of the article, and rightly so.

We should work with each other, not against each other. I'm against forms of separatism which seek to increase strife between different groups: this article and many of its ilk are partly responsible for the current state of things today.

I've said it many times before: Trump & Brexit (and the popularity of AfD/UKIP etc) are the direct result of the Left's obsession with identity politics and push to control discussion. People have been turning away from this, and as an undesirable result we now have a more vocal and confident far-right.

Nice one, Franco!
 


Because they're just as absolutist and narrow minded as the people they claim to resist, and are equally responsible for needlessly framing everything as some sort of wider ideological war between left and right. It makes any sort of dialogue unbearable and the worst thing is that they are probably the extreme right's best recruiters. Fascist dickheads effing love the existence of Antifa because it legitimises the dumb nonsense they subscribe to and proves all they need to know in their simple heads.
 
Bunch of spineless cowards hiding behind bandanas pretending to be the peace movement.

I’m all for free speech, if I disagree with someone then I debate with them. These clowns prevent the debate by shutting down the narrative and if anyone dare disagrees they get labelled a nazi

They’re so stupid they don’t realise how easy they have it, calling for communist state and hiding behind the police whilst giving them abuse. The irony is the first thing they’d lose in a communist state would be the ability to speak up against the regime

Quite ironic that they’ll also call out the capitalist culture as being wrong yet go home and play on their consoles whilst drinking a £10 flat white Frappuccino with soy milk

Bunch of ferrets
 
Antifa give a bad name to anti-facists.

Recently in Stockton-on-Tees a march was organised by former EDL people who called it " Gays against Sharia law " when it came to the day the amount of people protesting against that march was more than double.

Decency will win the day in the end. The NF and BDP had its day and disappered under the rock it came from, the same will happen with the FLA and EDL.
 
Ash Sarkar has written a piece for the Guardian, detailing the need for a "radical anti-fascist movement" as a means of bringing the working class together to fight against the rise of the extreme right.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/21/anti-fascist-movement-far-right


afa-interview-nf-james-poulter-384-1415968917.jpg


Would be an interesting discussion to see here as we seem to have a nice spread of political ideologies present.

Oh, all those Dangers in one place, that's helpful

*sends coded message to MI5*
 
I've said it many times before: Trump & Brexit (and the popularity of AfD/UKIP etc) are the direct result of the Left's obsession with identity politics and push to control discussion. People have been turning away from this, and as an undesirable result we now have a more vocal and confident far-right.

They aren't, though.

The rise of Trump (and the attitudes behind Brexit here) is down to the media and political parties repeating over a period of some years the same demands for the things that far right groups traditionally agitate for. How long has the Mail and that other rag been going on about immigrants or about the feral underclass class? How often have they lauded political leaders as strong or powerful for taking military action as opposed to discussion? How many times have they praised business leaders for making money (irrespective of how sustainable that is) whilst attacking (for instance) unions for trying to prevent things that cost us all a lot of money further down the line? How many lies did they peddle - or at best allowed to go unchallenged - from the politicians they favoured, even when those lies were easily disprovable at the time and had an impact that cost people their lives? The idea of a strong decisive leader that speaks his mind, does what "the people" want and gets things done is one that we have been told to like for years.

I agree that Antifa or some like group is a daft idea - not least for the reason that the extreme right loves uniforms, weapons and martyrs so will probably be able to out-organize any left group - but to blame the Left for the rise of Trump is just daft; lets face it the Left has been a nonentity in the US for years and was largely an irrelevance here as well from 1983-2015.
 
Dunno about them being as bad as the far right, think that's a bit of a stretch and a bit of a lazy centrist comparison tbh. They may not go about things the right way but their cause is certainly less shady than Nazi's and White supermacists.

Plus you're going to have a hard time convincing me to hate on someone for punching Nazis.
 
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