Current Affairs Afghanistan

[Yarrgh]

There will be much more important issues at hand in the next election imo and Afghanistan will be an after thought.

The cynical part of me agrees with this. I'd be even more cynical and say that it won't even make much of an impact in a week's time to the average person on the street if that street isn't in or next to Afghanistan.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

With that many people on the apron, the plane would struggle to take off and that's if it is fuelled and ready etc. The vacuum without the ANA/Police is worrying.

I heard they are using Apache gunships as crowd control to allow the departing aircraft to taxi onto the runway!!!

 

[LostLegend]

Are you suggesting that the US needs to drop a bigger bomb if they want to make the place more friendly?

“Those guys were in hog heaven out there, man. They had a big weapons catalogue opened up:

‘What’s G-12 do, Tommy?’

‘Says here it destroys everything but the fillings in their teeth. Helps us pay for the war effort.’

‘Well, [Poor language removed], pull that one up!’

‘Pull up G-12, please…’

[Sound of a missile launching, he watches the missile heading off into the distance, several beats go by, then the sound of an explosion]

‘…Cool. What’s G-13 do?’”

 

[peteblue]

I'm quite sure you've displayed you're woefully ignorant when it comes to foreign policy in this thread.

You keep comparing ww2 reconstruction of Germany to this. It's completely different, and you compare the continued station of American troops there as if it is similar to the nature of deployment in Afghanistan.

After the war, the Germans and Japanese if you want to include those efforts as well did not have large segments of populations engaging in guerilla warfare. Those populations were unified people who saw themselves as a nation state.

Afghanistan like much of the middle east is just arbitrary lines that have grouped tribes and religious sects together that at this point do not see themselves as having a shared identity. They don't want to have a western society at this point. I don't know how you haven't learned over the past 20 years, you can't just murder people into submission into accepting the way of life you want them to have.

After 20 years of allied influence/rule the Germans and Japanese were in a far different situation than what Afghanistan is. It doesn't matter how long we stay there, with how many troops. Sure you could effectively oppress them into it with massive resources expended, it's just not worth it.

It's a shame. I feel for those who spilled blood fighting for it to see it all go to waste. But it's like getting someone to quit drugs or make a big life change, they've got to want to do it themselves or it'll never take.

And your whole conclusion you jumped to as if Japan/US is just going to hand over Taiwan was just another dramatic, ignorant view.

I won't even go near the BLM thing, that was just bizarre.

And that one I didn't know about. What a terrible post by me. Par for the course though. Had no idea of that operation in 2000.

You really should do some research for a change.

One of your own Generals…”Gen David Petraeus, who replaced Mr McChrystal as commander, told the BBC: "The situation obviously is just disastrous."
"We should literally reverse the decision," he said. "I feared we would come to regret the decision and we already are. There's no good outcome unless the United States and its allies recognise that we made a serious mistake."

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Not the best place to stow away on an aircraft.

 

[peteblue]

the yanks/British will either have to take it over or do a deal with the Taliban to get its people out.
those poor people at the airport are fleeing for their lives literally, god help them (if there is such a thing)

It looks like a deal may be done…..

 

[peteblue]

Not the best place to stow away on an aircraft.

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Beats the usual ‘chicken test’…..

 

[peteblue]

Yeh but i doubt its going to swing anyone to vote one way or another. For years now both left and right have been in favour of bringing troops home and ending the occupation, sure some will now pretend that it was a bad thing they never wanted to happen but deep down they know they are just being disingenuous for the sake of partisanship.

There will be much more important issues at hand in the next election imo and Afghanistan will be an after thought.

The cynical part of me agrees with this. I'd be even more cynical and say that it won't even make much of an impact in a week's time to the average person on the street if that street isn't in or next to Afghanistan.

There will no doubt be a bit of political point scoring, but I fear you are correct….

 

[Lapeno77]

 

[navidson]

“Those guys were in hog heaven out there, man. They had a big weapons catalogue opened up:

‘What’s G-12 do, Tommy?’

‘Says here it destroys everything but the fillings in their teeth. Helps us pay for the war effort.’

‘Well, [Poor language removed], pull that one up!’

‘Pull up G-12, please…’

[Sound of a missile launching, he watches the missile heading off into the distance, several beats go by, then the sound of an explosion]

‘…Cool. What’s G-13 do?’”

Miss you Bill

 

[navidson]

Not the best place to stow away on an aircraft.

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That's the Easyjet 'Extra Legroom' seating

 

[peteblue]

I hope to god this is not true, but if it is then any pictures should be nailed to the White House…..

 

[Shevin Keedy]

Wow great find there buddy. I'm definitely gonna follow this guy's story.

He says in one message to edit a laughing track over his message if he dies lol. No fear and quite the sense of humor

If it is true then he is taking resources away from those who desperately need them. Deserves to get left there.

 

[Paulie]

Documentary on Afghan. American soldiers to a civilian who had family killed when they shelled his house: "there's nothing we can do to bring back your family but what we can do is..." and opens a bag and gives $2.5k per family member.

 

[Blue 1]

This is horrible.

Incompetence and corruption have led to those poor people being left at the mercy of these backward caveman barbarians.