Current Affairs Afghanistan

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Of course, but that time had not been reached. Troops have to be stationed somewhere, overseas or at home, the USA had 2,500 in Afghanistan according to one of our posters, it has over 50,000 in Japan, over 25,000 in Korea, 35,000 in Germany and nearly 10,000 in the U.K. It has about 150,000- 200,000 stationed overseas in total. 2,500 is a drop in the ocean and was keeping both China and Russia out of Afghanistan….
So you just want to leave them in place indefinitely. Fair enough.
 
So you just want to leave them in place indefinitely. Fair enough.

Not indefinitely. But how long have they been in the places I mentioned. Afghanistan is an incredibly complex situation. It wold take decades for behaviour to change and for freedoms to become ingrained into such a country.
The situation for women will now become intolerable after nearly 20 years of a sort of freedom. This was a 50 year project to help change the objectives of the Taliban and the generations of children growing up under its control. It was just too soon to leave….
 
Not indefinitely. But how long have they been in the places I mentioned. Afghanistan is an incredibly complex situation. It wold take decades for behaviour to change and for freedoms to become ingrained into such a country.
The situation for women will now become intolerable after nearly 20 years of a sort of freedom. This was a 50 year project to help change the objectives of the Taliban and the generations of children growing up under its control. It was just too soon to leave….
That 50 year number is a complete guess though. Which makes the length of stay indefinite.
 
One of the greatest things I’ve ever read
Some people are just utterly [Poor language removed] different and mad. Type that is fun to be around, but my God, kind of people that i wouldn't want to be related to, simply because amount of worry and misery stunts like this probably causing to their loved ones
 
Hate Trump with a passion but this one is very difficult. We had to withdraw at some point the Taliban were always going to wait us out - so as bad as it is, you cant criticise him for wanting troops home. Biden is completing the agreement Trump made and we like good little lapdogs follow suit.

We can criticise the intelligence, strategy and the training methods or competence of the training over there for the recent surrender of Afghani forces.

And Bush/Blair should still be prosecuted for war crimes. You think we would learn our lesson but it wont be long until the defence lobbying begins as they need to rack up a profit and another war is started.
 
20 years of occupation and the US puppet government falls apart in 2 weeks. Incredible.

The PDPA government lasted 3 years after the Soviets left. South Vietnam clung on for 2 after the US left there.

What a fantastic waste of money and lives.

What was the point to begin with.
 
Yet another failed state created by us and America. Could have easily left a few thousand troops there, provided the ANA with air support and that would have been enough deterrent to keep the peace. A truly shameful moment for the UK and USA.
 
I reside in Military City, USA and see men and women physically and psychologically affected by these wars daily. It's heartbreaking and maddening. Those brave men and women did not fail - our politicians and money-grubbing war industrial complex set them up for failure.

Solid estimates of the cost to US taxpayers for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and their after-effects by 2050: $6.5 trillion.

Such an unholy waste.
 
I don't know if there was any way to prevent all of this short of just occupying Afghanistan forever and that feels wrong too
Eventually it is just impossible to help people who can’t or won’t help themselves. Very unfortunate for the citizens that the Taliban are the only ones there who seem interested in governing the country.
 
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