23 years and counting...

[Bluebonic]

Haha. Bit harsh perhaps. But imagine if a person whom you invested so much energy, money, emotion and time in and gave you nothing but misery and disappointment in return!

Leave my missus out of it you! :/

 

[blue61]

The law of averages states we will probably fluke a league cup or something in the space of a human lifetime

Assuming the human in question is Methuselah.

 

[Bluebonic]

NSNO my butthole. Everything about the club is mediocre, and truth be told the last trophy we won was against huge odds and we have been on a downward spiral ever since the EPL was established.

It isn't just about money. We've let standards slip so far and have no idea how to turn it around. The only way to get through to those who matter is to vote with your feet. If Man U or Arsenal served up the dross we see week in week out they wouldn't even fill 10 seats.

Not strictly true, ManU got relegated in the mid 70’s and were (i think) still the best supported club in the land.

 

[ToffeeTim]

It's a very long way off. Standards are appallingly low and failure is tolerated. Nothing at this club is done in a professional and thorough manner like you see at trophy winning clubs.

If we win something in the next decade I'll be shocked.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Not as though we haven’t had opportunities.

We were the best team in the Europa League in 07/08. That Rangers Zenit final, we’d have mullered either of them and battered Fiorentina, the Cahill injury and their wonder keeper did for us.

15/16 FA cup. Lukaku missed penalty, misses multiple one on ones, we’re back 1-1 and a poor United are on the ropes only to punish us for Lukaku’s profligacy. Pardew’s Palace in the final.

12/13 FA Cup. Out to Wigan at home, Millwall in the semi. Mancini’s City who we had the Indian sign over in the final.

We should have converted one of these chances. I still believe we’ll do it in the near future but obviously not under Allardyce.

 

[COYBL25]

I remember 1983 when people were in utter despair (remember 6 wins from first 21 games) and saying that we would never again win a trophy.
Remember the "Kendall out" chants echoing around the half empty terracing?
Well if the next seasons taught me anything, it was that when change happens it can happen quick.
I know that if I was to say "we'll win something in the next two years" lids would be phoning for the men in the white coats.
I'm certainly not saying that. What I am saying is that nobody can predict the future, so I would never give up hope.
I'm familiar with the "It's the hope that kills you" shouts. Fact is, if you really, truly have no hope, then you might just as well be dead.

I appreciate what your trying to say there mate, however there is no comparison with the success of the Kendal Mk1 era, as the TV money, Billionaire owners, clubs being owned by countries, transfer fees and players wages, has changed absolutely everything since then.

 

[Chozz]

I remember 1983 when people were in utter despair (remember 6 wins from first 21 games) and saying that we would never again win a trophy.
Remember the "Kendall out" chants echoing around the half empty terracing?
Well if the next seasons taught me anything, it was that when change happens it can happen quick.
I know that if I was to say "we'll win something in the next two years" lids would be phoning for the men in the white coats.
I'm certainly not saying that. What I am saying is that nobody can predict the future, so I would never give up hope.
I'm familiar with the "It's the hope that kills you" shouts. Fact is, if you really, truly have no hope, then you might just as well be dead.

We got an optimist people!

 

[Sentinel]

It comes from the top down, the real reason the club has been riddled with surrender monkeys. Carragher of all people called the players out on it on Monday and it's been going on for a lot longer than three years. Ultimately though it comes from the board and filters down from manager to players.

The club needs major surgery, a mindset than enables a winning mentality. A regime that will not tolerate failure, that is modern and efficient as well as ruthless. Change that, and we may have a chance at winning something.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

23 years and counting........we'll probably be saying that about the new stadium, with Anderson telling us it's still a goer with the council, even though the cost has risen to £3 billion!

 

[crockyblue79]

I was 15 when Paul Rideout nodded home (how did Stuart miss) to beat Utd in the 1995 FA Cup final. Since then it's been nothing short of a Shakespearean tragedy with multiple cases of soiling the bed at every possible cup winning opportunity. Such instances as the Distin backpass, the Wigan horror show and general disintegration when the chips are down (Chelsea 08 & 09, Utd & City 2016).

People talk about us still being a big club. 9 league titles. 5 FA Cups. That European cup they don't do anymore. Some charity shields. League cup finalist. Simod Cup runners up. The John Stones Panenka trophy....

Lads let's be honest. We're not at the races anymore. Haven't been for a long time. Since 87 we haven't even been involved in a league title challenge. And as for the Heysel issue, oh yeah we would've won the big cup easily. Really? Ok fair enough all the British teams were peaking in European competition then. But how are Villa or Forest faring these days? Doesn't guarantee longevity does it. We've been fortunate to just hang about the top flight like some permanent innocuous background fixture. Once on the coat tails of the top four, we're not even within touching distance of the top 6.

We moaned about lack of investment. "We can't compete with the big spenders" who simply buy the league. Well firstly Leicester managed to buck that trend and secondly we finally have no excuses about money. Imagine last summer being told in the midst of our ill fated spending spree, that we'd be languishig in the bottom half of the table without a spine and under the guidance of Sam Allardyce. It's an absolute shambles.

So what happens next? Complete and utter implosion, relegation and rebirth? More of the same "close but no cigar" and knive to a gunfight attitude? Or can we finally break free of our dire inferiority complex and give our long suffering fans something to be proud of again?

Personally I think we're currently suffering an identity crisis and at a real crossroads in terms of our future. The backroom staff and at least 50% of the squad needs replacing. We need to bring back a winning mentality and re-establish some kind of credibility. How that is done, I don't have the answers but a proper plan needs to be put in place. A shake up of some kind. Fcuk knows we've endured enough. If Everton were a friend/partner/wife we'd have ditched them long ago...

COYB.

It clearly goes deeper than just changing manager with us, how many have we had since our last trophy?
Everton now remind me of Coventry of the old first division, just staying in the division without pulling up any trees with just one fa cup success against the odds (1987) for the fans to reminis over in middle age.

 

[blue61]

Remember when we sacked a manager for finishing 5th, because 5th wasn't acceptable to the chairman. Different times.

 

[FC sexy xxx]

Not as though we haven’t had opportunities.

We were the best team in the Europa League in 07/08. That Rangers Zenit final, we’d have mullered either of them and battered Fiorentina, the Cahill injury and their wonder keeper did for us.

15/16 FA cup. Lukaku missed penalty, misses multiple one on ones, we’re back 1-1 and a poor United are on the ropes only to punish us for Lukaku’s profligacy. Pardew’s Palace in the final.

12/13 FA Cup. Out to Wigan at home, Millwall in the semi. Mancini’s City who we had the Indian sign over in the final.

We should have converted one of these chances. I still believe we’ll do it in the near future but obviously not under Allardyce.

we beat zenit 1 nil at goodison that season and they played very well so it’s a bit of a stretch to say We would of mullered them mate

 

[FC sexy xxx]

We got an optimist people!
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Or he’s on boss drugs that he bought off the dark web with his bit coin

 

[Boss_Rarkley]

Not as though we haven’t had opportunities.

We were the best team in the Europa League in 07/08. That Rangers Zenit final, we’d have mullered either of them and battered Fiorentina, the Cahill injury and their wonder keeper did for us.

15/16 FA cup. Lukaku missed penalty, misses multiple one on ones, we’re back 1-1 and a poor United are on the ropes only to punish us for Lukaku’s profligacy. Pardew’s Palace in the final.

12/13 FA Cup. Out to Wigan at home, Millwall in the semi. Mancini’s City who we had the Indian sign over in the final.

We should have converted one of these chances. I still believe we’ll do it in the near future but obviously not under Allardyce.

The 12/13 had our name on it - City had downed tools against Mancini towards the final we would have done them under a regimented Moyes unit. Absolutely disgraceful that Wigan defeat.

 

[crockyblue79]

It's remarkable that we haven't reached the league cup Final since 1984 when now non league Tranmere or bottom tier Luton have done so more recently. Nobody does bad records as good as Everton.