Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

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No issue at all with Obama mate as a person, Bidens corrupt but most politicians to an extent are. Bush was a puppet for evil people (Chaney etc)

And no I wasn't using Whataboutism at all, I was saying what we see now is the ultimate end of the trajectory that started with the acceptance of Clinton's misdeeds and lack of truth and character.
OK. If you don't like the term whataboutism, I'll just say poor comparison and odd conclusion.
 
OK. If you don't like the term whataboutism, I'll just say poor comparison and odd conclusion.

Cheers mate, way better actually, Whataboutism is just a throw away phrase far too overused to have much real meaning anymore (same as a good few words have become), it just kills any discussion stone dead.
 
Went to bed enjoying the thoughts that the dems were going to pull this off. Resisted the urge to check a couple of times in the night. Just turned phone on for the good news, then hit with this.

I can only hope the next four year aren’t as bad a they could be.
Has he lost his love for attacking the environment? Not heard much about this in the build up
 
Don’t see it that way. For Americans this election was all about internal affairs. The economy, inflation, jobs.

In fact Trump would quite happily have Gaza and the Palestinians wiped off the map along with Iran.

He would, but that wasn't my point.

Biden could have done something about Netanyahu / the direction of travel of Israeli politics at any point up mid-2023 that might have made October 7th not happen. He could have put firm guardrails on what the US would and would not support after October 7th. He didnt do either and it ended up losing Harris part of her base and was probably one of the factors that got young people to not vote for Harris as well.
 
Went to bed enjoying the thoughts that the dems were going to pull this off. Resisted the urge to check a couple of times in the night. Just turned phone on for the good news, then hit with this.

I can only hope the next four year aren’t as bad a they could be.
Has he lost his love for attacking the environment? Not heard much about this in the build up
One of his slogans was "Drill, baby, drill".

He has not.
 
Don’t see it that way. For Americans this election was all about internal affairs. The economy, inflation, jobs.

In fact Trump would quite happily have Gaza and the Palestinians wiped off the map along with Iran.
Trump and Kushner have already identified Gaza's potential as a beachfront development. I'm sure the $$$ in the Gaza Marine field has not escaped his attention too.
 
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