Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

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A vote for Trump is basically saying you don’t care about any of his misdemeanours or scandals. His attack on democracy at the last election, his narcissistic ways and his views on women’s rights, his sexual misconduct, etc etc etc

A vote for Trump is saying morally you are in the gutter. That’s it really, it’s that simple.

….still amazes me, that captures a whole lot of the US electorate.
 
‘You should do the surgery yourself if you believe in universal healthcare’.
How is that the same thing?

The original point, as simplistic an idea as it is, is to show people who vote for things to appear righteous, but only when it doesn't affect them directly. But when faced with the reality, they suddenly no longer back their own righteousness. So yes, as was pointed out, that is actual hypocrisy.

What you are saying involves levels of skill and practice that only the smallest percentage of people are capable of, not to mention the total and utter impracticality of it.

Terrible example.
 
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What time do we expect to start getting the results?

Basically deciding whether I'll stay up late or go to bed and get up early like 5am
Georgia’s poll closes at 7pm local time, so around midnight for us, so yeah around 5am. It wasn’t official until about the 8th or 9th in 2020 because of the mail ballots I think. Probably best waiting until Thursday or Friday for a clearer picture.
 
I think it will be a Harris landslide

One of the problems with constantly whining about polls, wanting polls skewed in your direction to keep up the narrative of a 'steal' and calling out everyone who doesn't kiss the ring leads to polls skewed in Trump's favour for an easy life.
On top of that 18-30 year olds are difficult to poll, women vote more than men and have more to lose, Older women will vote against him as they see the rights they fought for stripped away, plenty Conservatives will privately vote against him and Trump offers nothing of any value to win new voters.
 
A vote for Trump is basically saying you don’t care about any of his misdemeanours or scandals. His attack on democracy at the last election, his narcissistic ways and his views on women’s rights, his sexual misconduct, etc etc etc

A vote for Trump is saying morally you are in the gutter. That’s it really, it’s that simple.

….still amazes me, that captures a whole lot of the US electorate.
Or that they just don't believe it because they have been forcefed so much misinformation and witnessed so many disproven attacks on him that they are numb to it and have in fact gone past the point of hate to the point they smell something off with the whole situation.

Like i said the other day, if they had just shut up and left him be, it probably would've blown over, but they tried instead to destroy him in every way possible with 10 years of constant ad hominem attacks that have had the reverse effect.

People see through the BS to a point where they don't actually care about the few examples that are genuinely fact based.
 

About as much of a coin flip as you can have in something like this. Not the best place to be but significantly better than if Biden had continued. Feels like Everton vs Bournemouth to stay up 2 years back. Where’s Doucoure when you need him?
 
How is that the same thing?

The original point, as simplistic an idea as it is, is to show people who vote for things to appear righteous, but only when it doesn't affect them directly. But when faced it with the reality, they suddenly no longer back their own righteousness. So yes, as was pointed out, that is actual hypocrisy.

What you are saying involves levels of skill and practice that only the smallest percentage of people are capable of, not to mention the total and utter impracticality of it.

Terrible example.
It’s not hypocritical to see the value in immigration but not want random people in your home.

Same was as you can earn lots of money but still be socialist and believe the welfare state provides an important economic stabiliser.

Or see the value in free markets but believe that in certain areas it is probably a good idea to have state support.

My example in no more ludicrous than the video. The video is stupidity that goes to the extreme end of a spectrum and just highlights the wildly contradictory policies that trump is pushing.

He’s better for the economy except for his policy on tariffs, his anti-immigration policy, his push to remove central bank independence, his policy on banking deregulation (cos that’s never a bad idea is it?) etc etc
 
It’s not hypocritical to see the value in immigration but not want random people in your home.

Same was as you can earn lots of money but still be socialist and believe the welfare state provides an important economic stabiliser.

Or see the value in free markets but believe that in certain areas it is probably a good idea to have state support.

My example in no more ludicrous than the video. The video is stupidity that goes to the extreme end of a spectrum and just highlights the wildly contradictory policies that trump is pushing.

He’s better for the economy except for his policy on tariffs, his anti-immigration policy, his push to remove central bank independence, his policy on banking deregulation (cos that’s never a bad idea is it?) etc etc
Doing your own surgery...

Just think about that for a minute.

Terrible example.
 
How is that the same thing?

The original point, as simplistic an idea as it is, is to show people who vote for things to appear righteous, but only when it doesn't affect them directly. But when faced with the reality, they suddenly no longer back their own righteousness. So yes, as was pointed out, that is actual hypocrisy.

What you are saying involves levels of skill and practice that only the smallest percentage of people are capable of, not to mention the total and utter impracticality of it.

Terrible example.
That's ridiculous. There are Maga nuts in States that hardly ever see a Mexican frothing at the mouth about them coming in.
Everybody is affected by increased immigration but rarely directly. Sometimes for bad through increased costs and sometimes for good through increased revenue, and when it comes to jobs like fruit picking etc, reduced labour costs and people doing jobs the mouth frothers won't do.
 
Or that they just don't believe it because they have been forcefed so much misinformation and witnessed so many disproven attacks on him
Being fed misinformation is definitely an issue with MAGA. When you rely on Fox News & twitter that will happen.

Genuine question. If you’re saying there have been “so many disproven attacks” on Trump can you name a few because I’m struggling to remember them?
 
Or that they just don't believe it because they have been forcefed so much misinformation and witnessed so many disproven attacks on him that they are numb to it and have in fact gone past the point of hate to the point they smell something off with the whole situation.

Like i said the other day, if they had just shut up and left him be, it probably would've blown over, but they tried instead to destroy him in every way possible with 10 years of constant ad hominem attacks that have had the reverse effect.

People see through the BS to a point where they don't actually care about the few examples that are genuinely fact based.
He's a convicted felon ffs give your head a wobble. The attacks have been more than proven
And if 'Russia Russia Russia' comes to mind, you might want to read the Mueller Report or listen to Mueller's testimony
 
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