Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

[Ruairi77]

Who'll go first, Biden or Berhalter?

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

Today is the first day where I thought Biden may genuinely go. I'll walk back my earlier statement where I said he's still the best Dem option(mainly due to all other options being dire). Anyway, it's either him or Kamala. No-one else can get the gig without tearing the party apart.

Hello fellow Evertonian. Just wondering where you sit at the match, Park End, Lower Bullens?

 

[davek]

When the soon-to-be 78-year-old Lloyd Doggett, who has been in Congress since 1995 (and in the TX Senate/State Supreme Court from 1973 before that) and represents a completely solid Dem distinct in Austin, offers to cede his seat to a younger, more vibrant Progressive I'll be a bit more willing to hear him out on this. By safe, I mean he got just shy of 77% of the vote in his gerrymandered district.

Lots of people I know in Austin are having similar reactions as local folks to former San Antonio mayor and HUD Secretary Julian Castro doing the same thing (calling on Biden to step down): it's been a good while since they've been relevant in the party and they want to get back to their favorite place - in front of a TV camera.

If Joe Biden decides to step away, fine. The public pressure to force him to do so makes the party look weak, though, and plays into the hands of the GOP. Doggett invoking LBJ in his statement is interesting. Johnson bailed under similar pressure. His VP became the nominee. In part, Nixon won the election by a narrow margin due to a Dem party that remained fractured despite Johnson not being on the ballot.

I dont think Doggett will be the last Democrat to come out publicly and urge Biden to step away.

Next week or so will be interesting.

 

[BlueTX]

I dont think Doggett will be the last Democrat to come out publicly and urge Biden to step away.

Next week or so will be interesting.

I don't think he will be the last, either. In my reply to you I noted another (Julian Castro). And you are probably right that we'll still be talking about this next week and more so than the SCOTUS ruling that we now have a monarch rather than a president because our media is rating-obsessed ($$) rather than public service-minded and our citizenry generally has the attention span of a gnat (for policy).

Hawk tuah girl will still get more attention than the POTUS being able to sell pardons with no legal recourse.

 

[Rita_Poon]

It'd be amazing if the democrats had the decency to call one another out and say what a shambles it is that their cowardice has required their hiding behind a man that should be enjoying his retirement, after years of service, and that now he's been forced into a corner to face down one of the biggest modern ailments in politics, casts a long and deep shadow of sorrow on what was a great country and a formerly great party that had lofty ideas, ideals and morals.

 

[davek]

I don't think he will be the last, either. In my reply to you I noted another (Julian Castro). And you are probably right that we'll still be talking about this next week and more so than the SCOTUS ruling that we now have a monarch rather than a president because our media is rating-obsessed ($$) rather than public service-minded and our citizenry generally has the attention span of a gnat (for policy).

Hawk tuah girl will still get more attention than the POTUS being able to sell pardons with no legal recourse.

TBH, I can see people getting really tired really quickly listening to the "POTUS now becomes a monarch" bleating.

It looks weak and it plays into the hands of Donald J Trump by creating the image of him as someone who's inexorably on his way back to the WH to take advantage of these rulings.

What it should do is to focus minds to put up a competent opponent to him on 5 November. I think it will too.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Starmer? galloway? truss? tune in next week, same bat time, same bat channel....

 

[BlueTX]

TBH, I can see people getting really tired really quickly listening to the "POTUS now becomes a monarch" bleating.

It looks weak and it plays into the hands of Donald J Trump by creating the image of him as someone who's inexorably on his way back to the WH to take advantage of these rulings.

What it should do is to focus minds to put up a competent opponent to him on 5 November. I think it will too.

The country is being stripped of fundamental rights and more power is being accrued to the powerful but let's pretend it is more important whether a POTUS candidate is as spry as we'd like. Only the Dem candidate, tho. Not the GOP candidate.

What you describe is not "creating an image" of DJT. It is exactly who and what he is and just a generation or two ago his being the standard bearer would be unthinkable.

Competency. That's funny. Unquestionably, the most competent candidate of either party in the last several elections was Hillary Clinton.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[BlueTX]

Odds this will hurt Kennedy and DJT found to be on Epstein "massage" call logs not hurting him seem... high?

 

[Professor Toffee]

When will SCOTUS announce droit de seigneur for King Umpa Lumpa?

 

[verreauxi]

 

[davek]

The country is being stripped of fundamental rights and more power is being accrued to the powerful but let's pretend it is more important whether a POTUS candidate is as spry as we'd like. Only the Dem candidate, tho. Not the GOP candidate.

What you describe is not "creating an image" of DJT. It is exactly who and what he is and just a generation or two ago his being the standard bearer would be unthinkable.

Competency. That's funny. Unquestionably, the most competent candidate of either party in the last several elections was Hillary Clinton.

Looking from afar, the only image I have of him is a man being rightly humiliated in a series of court appearances. SCOTUS are definitely making partisan political decisions, but that just means you redouble your efforts to shift Trump out and expand it and nominate more liberal-minded judges.

In short: Trump is easily beatable with the right candidate opposing him.

 

[FrenchDarrenBent]

It'd be amazing if the democrats had the decency to call one another out and say what a shambles it is that their cowardice has required their hiding behind a man that should be enjoying his retirement, after years of service, and that now he's been forced into a corner to face down one of the biggest modern ailments in politics, casts a long and deep shadow of sorrow on what was a great country and a formerly great party that had lofty ideas, ideals and morals.

Is it cowardice or self-service?
I think a lot of them prefer Trump over Sanders, who might be able to steal working class states like Pennsylvania, Michigan or Wisconsin.

And again: why do the US have a politically appointed supreme court?

 

[Prevenger17]

And again: why do the US have a politically appointed supreme court?

That is the maddest aspect of this. A judge is supposed to be an impartial arbiter of the law, does nobody find it weird over there that there are "Democrat" and "Republican" judges?