Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

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People spend 4 pages explaining why Trump is vastly worse than Biden.

Dave.

"You CANT justify voting for Biden", hes an advanced AI thats BIOS has malfunctioned, no doubt about it.

You're telling me that it's perfectly ok to vote in a man who's handed the weapons over to murder 36,000 people because his opponent will do worse.

And then you deny the right not to vote for either of them.

Do you and others see where you're going wrong?

It's blindingly obvious really, isn't it?
 
Really? How many people did Trump provide bombs to a foreign power to murder? Is it anywhere near 36,000 people?

You CANT justify voting for Biden.
You have not provided any rational argument that Trump would cut off arms supplies to Israel. And you seem to have forgotten entirely about Yemen, his expansion of the drone wars (whilst stopping reporting of civilian casualties) etc.
WASHINGTON — President Trump vetoed a bipartisan resolution on Tuesday that would have forced an end to American military involvement in Saudi Arabia’s civil war in Yemen, rejecting an appeal by lawmakers to his own deeply rooted instincts to withdraw the United States from bloody foreign conflicts.

The veto, only the second time Mr. Trump has used his power to block legislation passed by both houses of Congress, strikes down a resolution that invoked the War Powers Act to distance the United States from a four-year conflict that has killed thousands of civilians and resulted in a widespread famine.
 
You have not provided any rational argument that Trump would cut off arms supplies to Israel. And you seem to have forgotten entirely about Yemen, his expansion of the drone wars (whilst stopping reporting of civilian casualties) etc.
WASHINGTON — President Trump vetoed a bipartisan resolution on Tuesday that would have forced an end to American military involvement in Saudi Arabia’s civil war in Yemen, rejecting an appeal by lawmakers to his own deeply rooted instincts to withdraw the United States from bloody foreign conflicts.

The veto, only the second time Mr. Trump has used his power to block legislation passed by both houses of Congress, strikes down a resolution that invoked the War Powers Act to distance the United States from a four-year conflict that has killed thousands of civilians and resulted in a widespread famine.
I don't have to supply any evidence that things would be ameliorated under Trump.

I stated yesterday that this wasn't a compare and contrast exercise. My attack on Biden is not to suggest Trump gets you anywhere more hopeful.

Biden has participated in a policy of genocide visited upon the Palestinian people. There's no avoiding that - as much as you might try and present him in a better light by comparing him per se with Trump. Democratic voters are seeing this and are being turned off voting for him becuase they know you don't reward people who are in a pact with foreign leaders who have committed war crimes and who are now in the cross hairs of the International Criminal Court.

A YouGov poll this week of battleground states shows that a fifth of Democratic and Independent voters won't support Biden in November unless he imposes a ceasefire on Israel and forces through full humanitarian aid into Gaza.


The election victory is there for Biden if he does that, but the odds are that he'll get right behind the Israeli's (with a bit of handwringing in the media) until the bitter end.
 
I don't have to supply any evidence that things would be ameliorated under Trump.

I stated yesterday that this wasn't a compare and contrast exercise. My attack on Biden is not to suggest Trump gets you anywhere more hopeful.

Biden has participated in a policy of genocide visited upon the Palestinian people. There's no avoiding that - as much as you might try and present him in a better light by comparing him per se with Trump. Democratic voters are seeing this and are being turned off voting for him becuase they know you don't reward people who are in a pact with foreign leaders who have committed war crimes and who are now in the cross hairs of the International Criminal Court.

A YouGov poll this week of battleground states shows that a fifth of Democratic and Independent voters won't support Biden in November unless he imposes a ceasefire on Israel and forces through full humanitarian aid into Gaza.


The election victory is there for Biden if he does that, but the odds are that he'll get right behind the Israeli's (with a bit of handwringing in the media) until the bitter end.
Israel are not having it mate, incase you missed it! Stop arms deliveries, yes, possibly but Israel carry on regardless it seems.

Again, you know this but it messes with your pointless argument
 
If Trump had laid down his arms and walked off into the sunset like Gore, I doubt there are prosecutions. Nixon was pardoned because there was no percentage in prosecuting political goods damaged beyond all hope of recovery.

Instead, Trump lied, ran a well-documented pressure campaign against state officials demanding they commit fraud, and incited a riot to halt certification. Those are political crimes, yes, but we do prosecute political criminals. We prosecute things like bribery, treason and sedition. We don't use them as political tools because the burden of proof in such cases is so high, and DoJ dislikes losing.

He did this for the worst of all possible reasons: because another term as president ran out the clock on statutes of limitations in all the civil cases he was facing.
So you (and the posters who clicked like on your post) seem to now agree with me that this is a politically motivated prosecution. If Trump retires from the stage, and does not run for President, he gets a pass on this 'crime'.

If the authorities are politically motivated for this prosecution then there is a high probability the other prosecutions are politically motivated too.
 
So you (and the posters who clicked like on your post) seem to now agree with me that this is a politically motivated prosecution. If Trump retires from the stage, and does not run for President, he gets a pass on this 'crime'.

If the authorities are politically motivated for this prosecution then there is a high probability the other prosecutions are politically motivated too.
You misunderstand the differences between 2000 and 2020. When Gore lost Bush v. Gore, he didn't start leaning on state officials, plotting slates of fake electors or hold a rally to put a mob on the Mall on January 6. Gore was not prosecuted because he did not commit crimes.

Nixon not being prosecuted was a political calculation. Ford, a fellow Republican, figured nothing good comes of prosecution for anyone, and probably cost himself any shot in the 1976 election with the pardon.

One fact making the Nixon pardon less dangerous is that Nixon could not run again. If Gore does what Trump did in 2000, he probably gets prosecuted. Just because he says he'll retire from the political theater doesn't mean he will. Nixon, by contrast, could not mount a comeback.
 
So you (and the posters who clicked like on your post) seem to now agree with me that this is a politically motivated prosecution. If Trump retires from the stage, and does not run for President, he gets a pass on this 'crime'.

If the authorities are politically motivated for this prosecution then there is a high probability the other prosecutions are politically motivated too.
Bollox

He’s a filthy criminal who is loved by bigoted fools
 
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