Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

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Ruairi77 said:
I dont get the right wing outrage at politically motivated prosicutions.
At the same time they're tying themselves in knots trying to convict the presidents son and impeach the president.

If you want to be POTUS, you've got to be squeaky clean or expect the opposition to use your history against you.
If Trump doesn't win the presidency, his tax dodging and bank fraud likely goes under the DA's radar as the city would prioritize the tax take over a lengthy and expensive legal battle.

I'm not saying it's right, it's just the way it's always been here.
And for the SCOTUS to throw out any conviction, I presume they'd have to establish a precedent that any former POTUS has immunity. I doubt even they would do that.
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Sure, the opposition uses your history against you in politics. However, this has historically been a PR thing NOT weaponising the legal system and DOJ against your opponent. Trump's tax dodging goes under the radar if he doesn't win the Presidency? FFS virtually nothing about Trump has went under the radar for decades. I'm gonna say he's probably been subject to more IRS audits than just about anyone in US history. The guy has been investigated to the nth degree on everything.

I have no idea whether SCOTUS will side with Trump on the Presidential immunity case. I am suggesting future cases brought by Trump to SCOTUS will give him either full or partial victories.

Is it correct for 'right wingers' to attempt to convict the President's son and impeach Joe Biden? I dunno. However, mutually assured destruction is a reasonable tactic to employ. You try to imprison one of ours, we try the same to one of yours. However, Dems have gamed the system in their own favour for now. I have my own thoughts on how Repubs can best target Dem politicians, but tbh it's not a tactic I'm comfortable with.
 
Prevenger17 said:
Lads, who keeps talking to Herpdy Derp? My Show ignored content button is getting way too much sunlight here
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When they're reasonably rational, we should engage. It shows we're even-handed, that it's nothing personal, and that it's about content.

When it devolves into propaganda, we shouldn't. As an example, anyone trying to draw an equivalence between Biden's classified docs case and Trump's misrepresents the facts of the cases. Biden's attorneys followed procedure and freely gave their client up, admitting guilt from the outset rather than reduce the documents to shreds or a pile of ash. Anyone else who was as careless with the most significant documents Trump had just laying around would be presumed guilty of espionage.
 
Martin Alvito said:
When they're reasonably rational, we should engage. It shows we're even-handed, that it's nothing personal, and that it's about content.

When it devolves into propaganda, we shouldn't. As an example, anyone trying to draw an equivalence between Biden's classified docs case and Trump's misrepresents the facts of the cases. Biden's attorneys followed procedure and freely gave their client up, admitting guilt from the outset rather than reduce the documents to shreds or a pile of ash. Anyone else who was as careless with the most significant documents Trump had just laying around would be presumed guilty of espionage.
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I'm glad you brought that up. There are two main aspects to the charges against Trump when it comes to the documents case. The first being mishandling of classified documents. The second being obstruction. Sure, you won't get Biden on obstruction but you can prosecute him for mishandling classified documents. Remember, Trump was President. In theory he could declassify documents he so wished, or he could claim documents as his own property. The law is a bit blurry on what a President is entitled to take. Biden never had any such defence with the documents he took with him after his stint as VP. He was never in a position to declassify them. Now, the only reason Biden was not prosecuted we are told is that the person investigating thought Biden would portray himself as mentally feeble to a jury.

If you want Americans to have faith in the legal system you had better prosecute both men.
 
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