Current Affairs 2020 Democratic Primary
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Let he who has never invoked the popular vote in 2016 cast the first stone.
He should have considered Party unity, and declared victory on national television with 1.9% of the votes counted instead.
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are you referring to Pete?
Yea, he's behaved poorly too.
Also, I don't think anyone especially not Clinton ever declared victory in 2016
and in the latest episode of 'wacky old white guy running for president', Joe takes Mikes grandsons pacifier and puts it in his mouth!
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...-vice-president-biden-steals-a-babys-pacifier
edit, it's five years old and also kinda cute.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...-vice-president-biden-steals-a-babys-pacifier
edit, it's five years old and also kinda cute.
Tbh a lot of Sanders supporters did ridicule Clinton for the “popular vote win” comments. They rightly pointed out that, whilst true, they were a way of distracting from the weaknesses in getting out her supporters and in convincing swing voters or those not in big cities.
There are some parallels here you have to admit - how the hell for instance did Sanders lose rural communities to a wet behind the ears ex McKinsey consultant when Bernie has been focusing so much on policies to address their perceived issues?
How Pete Buttigieg and Bernie Sanders split Iowa voters
A closer look at the results shows that different areas and demographic groups pushed the two candidates ahead of the pack.
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establishment in the DNC going berserk, knowing Biden is losing the plot, his health detoriates (wish him the best btw) and polls dipped, of course they panicked, Pete is their new/last hope, if he can't succeed, one of the Dem progressives (Warren, Sanders) will get the ticket and they are running scared of the idea. They rigged for Clinton in 2016, they still haven't learned, watching 'experts' on CNN speak so highly of someone as no-name as Buttigieg is..popcorn worthy stuff
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There are some parallels here you have to admit - how the hell for instance did Sanders lose rural communities to a wet behind the ears ex McKinsey consultant when Bernie has been focusing so much on policies to address their perceived issues?
How Pete Buttigieg and Bernie Sanders split Iowa voters
A closer look at the results shows that different areas and demographic groups pushed the two candidates ahead of the pack.
With all the usual caveats about polls, and the inherent risks of projecting into the future, and the unpredictability of New Hampshire voters, I am satisfied with how things look thus far
You recognize at a caucus they ask the people questions right? The ticker I was referring to was results from said caucus not who won but the answers collected from the questions asked.
Look I knew you would pipe in and try be insulting. Clearly you are all in on Bernie Sanders and people cannot be critical or question anything he does. Nor talk about any poll or data collected. With the exception of yourself it seems when it favors Sanders.
You realise that nearly all of us in here said we would vote for him to. So not sure why you want to be so hostile and condescending to people either.
Oh I don’t disagree that Sanders is the favorite right now. Not only is New Hampshire next where Bernie is historically strong but as we have previously discussed Buttigieg currently has a very narrow demographic appeal and unless a lot of Biden’s voters defect to him, Pete’s chances in Nevada and South Carolina look poor.
But that isn’t really addressing the issue I raised. Sander‘s key message, both in 2016 and now, was that he could get voters that Clinton/an establishment candidate could not. Blue collar workers, Obama/Trump voters and younger voters are all frequently cited.
One area I personally had hoped Sanders would be strong in was rural voters - farmers in particular have been hit hard by Trump’s tariffs, rural communities have often been left behind in recent years especially in healthcare coverage and I believe Bernie has a good plan to address some of the problems.
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So I find it worrying that he lost out to Pete in those areas, not for the primary as such but as a foreshadowing if Sanders is the general election candidate as the rural/urban divide was one of the reasons Trump narrowly won states like Wisconsin.
Also this
This is as ludicrous as some of the guff Biden says
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1) I‘m not sure even 70-80% of Dem voters support Medicare for all (or this partial variation) let alone deep red Kentucky.
2) Even if they did what evidence that it would make a jot of difference to how McConnell votes after he has been reelected to a 6 year term at 77 years old? Support for keeping the ACA or expanding Medicaid has been much stronger than anything I have seen for M4all and that hasn’t stopped Mitch doing all he can to gut the programs, it is total fantasy land to think that he is ever going to support Medicare for all.
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