Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[neil999]

have to pray those polls end up being wrong, i'm no corbyn fan...but a loss like that would be horrendous

 

[gorgeousgeorgeEFC]

have to pray those polls end up being wrong, i'm no corbyn fan...but a loss like that would be horrendous

The polls were completely wrong about the last general election, so much so that Miliband was preparing a victory speech when the Exit Polls were released at 10pm on the day of the election. And the polls failed to call the referendum result. In fact, Gallup had "Remain" eight points ahead the day before the vote. As for the U.S. presidential election....

Pay no heed to them.

 

[Tubey]

The polls were completely wrong about the last general election, so much so that Miliband was preparing a victory speech when the Exit Polls were released at 10pm on the day of the election. And the polls failed to call the referendum result. In fact, Gallup had "Remain" eight points ahead the day before the vote. As for the U.S. presidential election....

Pay no heed to them.

The difference is that all of those polls had one thing in common - underestimating the support of right wing politics.

They may be slightly off, but it won't matter if they are - it'd still be a drubbing for Corbyn.

For me, I think the polls are slightly exaggerated, but very slightly. It'll be close to a historic defeat for Labour - the echo chamber really aren't understanding just how unelectable Corbyn is to anyone who isn't very left wing.

 

[neil999]

The difference is that all of those polls had one thing in common - underestimating the support of right wing politics.

They may be slightly off, but it won't matter if they are - it'd still be a drubbing for Corbyn.

For me, I think the polls are slightly exaggerated, but very slightly. It'll be close to a historic defeat for Labour - the echo chamber really aren't understanding just how unelectable Corbyn is to anyone who isn't very left wing.

there might be some shy corbyn voters, be pretty embarassing admitting you want him to be pm lol

 

[sd_1992]

The polls were completely wrong about the last general election, so much so that Miliband was preparing a victory speech when the Exit Polls were released at 10pm on the day of the election. And the polls failed to call the referendum result. In fact, Gallup had "Remain" eight points ahead the day before the vote. As for the U.S. presidential election....

Pay no heed to them.

Pretty much every single poll since the turn of the century has underestimated Tory support though... the polls may consistently get it wrong but that isn't good news for the left...

 

[Tubey]

there might be some shy corbyn voters, be pretty embarassing admitting you want him to be pm lol

Ha could be I guess! I'd be embarrassed to say I'd vote for him!

Nah, he's in for a drubbing.

If you think about it logically, look at what's on offer - for the normal person, working home, maybe a couple of kids, you look at the political picture and you see two things.

• A loon banging on about getting rid of a nuclear deterrent with uncosted policies and pipedream ideals dreamed up in the most left wing of student union debate rooms, whilst leading a party with a confused message and who actively hate their own leader.
• A grim, boring woman who represents a steady ship, whether that view is merited or not, who has the support of her party and has no ambiguity in her messaging.

So those families are going to think, "things might be a bit bad, but I'd rather they weren't any worse." They won't risk being out of a job because of a Marxist nutter destroying an economy that already fragile. They'll vote Tory.

I've said this numerous times, but worth saying again - I live in Kirkby, one of the safest Labour towns imaginable. Yet nobody I've spoken to is going to vote for Corbyn - they hate him; they view him as an idiot. They might vote for Labour, but out of habit. They are more likely not to vote at all. And that's Kirkby.

He'll get socialist votes, the trade unionists, the young student politics idealists and perhaps those on long term JSA or UC. Most of those groups either don't really vote when it comes down to it, or are too small in numbers to matter. Whereas he'll get nothing from the elderly, the well off, the middle classes or the working classes.

That's why people have been saying for a long time now that Corbyn is unelectable, because his voter base is too small due to his ideology, and the ideology itself is too inflexible and intolerable to those he'd need to convert to win an election.

The Corbyn echo chamber won't admit that to themselves, but for someone like me - a traditional Labour voter who would vote for the Loony Party ahead of Corbyn - these polls are not a surprise in the slightest.

 

[orly]

there might be some shy corbyn voters, be pretty embarassing admitting you want him to be pm lol

lol

 

[roydo]

What an excellent post Tubes.

 

[orly]

What an excellent post Tubes.

He's absolutely nailed it there hasn't he

 

[roydo]

He's absolutely nailed it there hasn't he

Very. And then some Orly.

 

[peteblue]

Baffling how this has a dislike, as there's quite literally nothing untrue in the entire post.

There's a few on here like this 'Oldblue' character that just do it without ever putting up any form of discussion or rebuttal. Sad really, I don't know why they bother....

 

[peteblue]

have to pray those polls end up being wrong, i'm no corbyn fan...but a loss like that would be horrendous

Why ?.......it will do the Labour Party a bit of good to be brought back to basics.....

 

[Milkman]

Urghhh.. your posts consistently make me want to blow my brains out @Tubey.

 

[Milkman]

I like my politicians uninspiring, my morals weak and my government conservative.

 

[orly]

There's a few on here like this 'Oldblue' character that just do it without ever putting up any form of discussion or rebuttal. Sad really, I don't know why they bother....

He's not the sharpest unfortunately. He was a big advocate of Martinez, and hasn't really posted consistently since that went the way it did