Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[Blue 1]

6 it was. First 3 or 4 she lost by 100 or so and then 5 and 6 she won by 300 or so.

Very fishy. Similar happened in Shipley with Phillip Davies.

Utter shame them two survived.

Aw, crap. Thinking that filibustering misogynist POS had lost his seat was one of the highlights of my night. Didn't realised he'd won on a recount.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Indeed.

It will be to get the Queens Speech through, then May will duck and weave to get some sort of traction re Brexit, then lose a Confidence vote, resign, and another GE before Christmas.

Gamble will be that Corbyn was a high water mark this week, (who knows?), and the Tory high command wont make the same mistakes again.

It's just a desperate PM trying to cling on. She's burying her head hoping it all blows over but unfortunately it's more of a tornado than a strong breeze....

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

It wont, as far as I understand, be a formal power sharing arrangement - as was the last coalition between the Cons and LDs.

She's really going to have to pander to them big style I would imagine.

 

[lancs blue]

Won't May have to give some of them a position in government, a job so to speak.

it's not a formal coalition as such so doubt it. but she will be bending backwards more than ever for them. price of failure and desperation. infamy infamy everyone's got it in for me

 

[lancs blue]

Won't May have to give some of them a position in government, a job so to speak.

it's not a formal coalition as such so doubt it. but she will be bending backwards more than ever for them. price of failure and desperation. infamy infamy everyone's got it in for me

 

[jaycee]

So the Conservative Unionist Negotiating Team will try and sort Brexit out,bit of a mouthful,wonder what it can be shorte

 

[roydo]

It's just a desperate PM trying to cling on. She's burying her head hoping it all blows over but unfortunately it's more of a tornado than a strong breeze....

No. It would have been the High Command that decided it. She will be the fall guy (sic) in their attempt to have re run with a competent leader/campaigner.

If they didnt try to get a QS throgh, they would have given Corbyn the keys.

 

[Connor]

Aw, crap. Thinking that filibustering misogynist POS had lost his seat was one of the highlights of my night. Didn't realised he'd won on a recount.

We'll get them next time around. A lot of real safe Tory seats went marginal last night - Rudd, Greening, Davies and Duncan-Smith especially.

Throw us a snap election before Christmas and we'll rag them.

 

[lancs blue]

6 it was. First 3 or 4 she lost by 100 or so and then 5 and 6 she won by 300 or so.

Very fishy. Similar happened in Shipley with Phillip Davies.

Utter shame them two survived.

what happens when you count the same vote twice

 

[Connor]

what happens when you count the same vote twice

I think once they'd realised they'd lost the first recount, they used the "One for Labour, Three for Tories" method of counting.

 

[ToffeeTim]

No. It would have been the High Command that decided it. She will be the fall guy (sic) in their attempt to have re run with a competent leader/campaigner.

If they didnt try to get a QS throgh, they would have given Corbyn the keys.

Yeah suppose that makes sense. She won't be here long though. The arrangement with the unionists has no long term sustainability to start with, never mind the fact their leader has said she can't see how Theresa even survives.

 

[roydo]

We'll get them next time around. A lot of real safe Tory seats went marginal last night - Rudd, Greening, Davies and Duncan-Smith especially.

Throw us a snap election before Christmas and we'll rag them.

Think thats actually the Tory plan.

Based on concluding that this was a Corbyn high water mark, they have traction in Scotland, (seems mad typing that, but strange days), and have a semi competent campaigner in the hot seat.

This DUP thing is purely to get the QS through.

 

[roydo]

what happens when you count the same vote twice

I think once they'd realised they'd lost the first recount, they used the "One for Labour, Three for Tories" method of counting.

I have actually been a counter in a few elections believe it or not.

You are watched, like a hawk, by 2 or 3 members of the main parties. Like a small desk, with a pile of ballot papers, that you count into bundles of 25 iirc, for each party. These are then counted by the party members, (their own obvs), then put into another pile, then counted again, in like bundles of 500 or so.

 

[hullefc]

There will be an extra keen interest by the Tories in Southport when their new found friends roll into town this 12th. of July. It will probably be enhanced by the usual EDL types who are probably the ones demonstrated against in Liverpool the other week.

EU will not let them have it both ways. Dodds is quoted as saying that they do not want special status for N.I. within the EU and yet it seems that they also want to keep open border with the Republic.

Currently EU produced goods can travel freely around the EU to and through other Member States.

How does DUP propose to manage post-Brexit situation where goods (meat products for example) from GB are ferried to Larne en route to Dublin. Where are the levies going to be imposed?

How will they deal with the reverse situation - meat products from Republic going through N.I. to GB?

Some sort of special status agreement is a must for N.I. that would allow all goods from island of Ireland to pass freely across the border but would be subject to tariffs if it they leave the island for GB. There is no way of avoiding some sort of border checks for GB goods heading through the North for the Republic, but whether those are carried out at point of entry into the North from GB or at border with Republic - I don't know!!

Once goods get into the Republic as an EU Member State, they can then travel freely throughout the rest of the EU. Therefore EU will insist on customs point somewhere between GB and Republic.

....and this is just in relation to Ireland!

Believe me the British have no idea how difficult the other Member States intend to makes things for them in deciding to leave.

The last person I would like to send to Brussels to try and maximise the diplomacy would be the P.M. based on what I have seen in the past few weeks and hours.

Any citizen of the EU will be able to arrive in Dublin, get on a train or in a car and travel to Belfast. The UK will not be able to control its borders without a border on the Island of Ireland - something that goes against the Good Friday Agreement. If the DUP don't want a border then they will be instantly in conflict with the Tories/May or any other leader. A coalition of chaos springs to mind. The Tories/May never dealt with this during this Brexit election that wasn't a Brexit election after all.

 

[DanEFC92]