Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[peteblue]

No tuition fees see - It wasn't difficult to politically figure that one out, however it seems it was for the mingebag tories

Indeed. The Labour manifesto was a giveaway for everyone and the Conservatives screwed theirs up with petty reductions on school meals etc. The writers of the Tory manifesto will be given a good kicking this week, and rightly so.........

 

[edge]

Perhaps....

Can't see the Tories changing anything in there stance to the talks other than maybe a tip of the hat to the DUP maybe on border issues, they are boxed in as they can't appear weak after this result.

 

[orly]

I'd be wary of reading this as a widescale vote for the policies themselves. The Lib Dems campaigned purely to attract the 48%, and that failed miserably, yet their vote had to go somewhere, so it seems feasible that Labour were a more feasible protest vote against Brexit than the Lib Dems were. Whether that translates into long-term support remains to be seen.

Not sure that's true at all. Increased number of seats when a month ago their leader could have lost his seat (and was widely predicted to) and well beat expectation around a 6/7 seat line with most bookmakers.

They were just hosed by the Labour party.

 

[edge]

Indeed. The Labour manifesto was a giveaway for everyone and the Conservatives screwed theirs up with petty reductions on school meals etc. The writers of the Tory manifesto will be given a good kicking this week, and rightly so.........

He lost his seat the main player in writing that manifesto.

 

[davmaher]

Given the amount of vitriol that the right wing press gave Corbyn both before and during the campaign it seems to me that their ability to influence an election has gone. Their opinions have turned out to be an irrelevance in this campaign and the days of "It was the Sun wot won it" seem over now. Murdoch apparently stormed out of a supposed celebratory party as soon as he saw the exit polls.

 

[Barnfred 55]

I've this morning fallen out with a friend of mine who's voted Tory in Southport, which they've won. Ffs.

He's voted purely based on his personal financial gain. The utter vermin.

Wasnt sure if you were serious or joking there. If I had a mate who dumped me just because I voted for a different political party, I'd consider it a lucky escape.

 

[peteblue]

He lost his seat the main player in writing that manifesto.

There's also a couple of 'chiefs of staff' that will get the boot I reckon.......

 

[peteblue]

Given the amount of vitriol that the right wing press gave Corbyn both before and during the campaign it seems to me that their ability to influence an election has gone. Their opinions have turned out to be an irrelevance in this campaign and the days of "It was the Sun wot won it" seem over now. Murdoch apparently stormed out of a supposed celebratory party as soon as he saw the exit polls.

This is good to see tbh........

 

[neil999]

Indeed. The Labour manifesto was a giveaway for everyone and the Conservatives screwed theirs up with petty reductions on school meals etc. The writers of the Tory manifesto will be given a good kicking this week, and rightly so.........

They tried to get stuff thru that made sense, but was political dynamite

 

[Kiwi]

Thought it was fascinating to see how much of the UKIP vote Labour picked up myself, particularly given how hard the Tories pursued those votes.
Good to see UKIP ended as a political force

 

[orly]

@Kiwi the Canterbury result was sort of what I meant about Corbyn (and newer MPs) benefiting from the old guard not supporting him.

http://www.kentlive.news/who-is-ros...made-history/story-30380755-detail/story.html

So as you probably know typically rising stars in the parties, or the 'less exposed' ones, have to serve their time standing for a seat they have no chance of winning (Blair at Beaconsfield an example) but it 'makes them', builds a profile etc.

Rosie Duffield had a council history in Canterbury but wouldn't have been wildly expected to do much when the nominations first went in. A bit like the Labour MP currently contesting Kensington, a no-hoper six weeks ago but now could be 35 votes from something momentous.

Corbyn now has a base of not just energised youth and disenfranchised vote, but some very very very grateful new MPs and fresh blood about the place.

 

[Harryflashman]

...not all of NI.

This will just ramp up divisions over there and when the terms of the Brexit are a disaster

A mainland U.K. Government having to deal with a NI party to stay in power in 2017 with all that's going on it a both almost unbelievable and also potentially disastrous.

We have no assembly at the moment but the DUP potentially holding the government by the proverbials that's before as you say we get onto Brexit and almost certain the issues with border . We're going to have DUP demands versus good Friday agreement and a lot of other not DUP voters across the north .

It is as you say a recipe for disaster.

Then as almost an aside we have a political party holding a lot of power that seems opposed to abortion , gay marriage and where many are creationists. I'd imagine many liberal Tories would baulk at the prospect of tying themselves to them .

 

[Harryflashman]

Thought it was fascinating to see how much of the UKIP vote Labour picked up myself, particularly given how hard the Tories pursued those votes.
Good to see UKIP ended as a political force

I wonder if it is , as many speculated , that ukip as much as it was anti Europe was also a protest against the established political parties and perhaps Corbyn did scoop them up .

 

[kenada_blue]

If nothing else this has been a resounding mandate for Corbyn's grassroots activism and mobilising of the youth vote.
Demonstrates that Labour does NOT have to take a Tory lite position and that are capable of being elected in marginals with Socialist centre left- middle leftist policies.
Imagine if he'd actually had his own MP's behind him with Labour providing a solid united front over the last 12 months.

Or if he sorted that out early.

He did what he does best which is campaigns and rallying.

When it comes to Parliament debates, party infrastructure, decisions, and the at points farcical nature of government, he still hasn't shown he's got a handle on it.

He needs the whole package to win

 

[Tubey]

That's one hell of a brass neck on May... She has no mandate whatsoever, she should resign but she's putting her own arrogance and her party over the country.