Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[AndyC]

While this is true, I think it's a very risky strategy, because you're relying on the news to relay the best parts of your speech (which rarely happens!), whereas a quick stop in a marginal like Chester could really energise voters.

It's a juggling act isn't it ?

Appear in Chester and secure the slim majority there... or appear in front of a big, enthusiastic crowd in a rock solid constituency and hope the media show enough to take the message to wider undecided audience across the country.

It's the gamble I think I'd have taken... as providing there are no faux pas, the media coverage could and should do the trick.

Three months ago, I didn't give him a snowballs chance in a furnace, but he's come on leaps and bounds for me.
He's passed a lot of the tests asked of him, his Achilles Heel has been Dianne Abbott and to a lesser extent John McDonnell.

If, and it's still an outside bet imo, he were to win, choosing his front bench will be massively critical.

He's been admirably loyal to Abbott, but she's a train wreck and he would needs to put the country first over personal loyalties.

Hate to say it, but I think May will still win, but the margin of victory is going to be a helluva lot slimmer than she imagined the morning she called the election and serve her damn well right !!!!!

 

[Mrk]

It's a juggling act isn't it ?

Appear in Chester and secure the slim majority there... or appear in front of a big, enthusiastic crowd in a rock solid constituency and hope the media show enough to take the message to wider undecided audience across the country.

It's the gamble I think I'd have taken... as providing there are no faux pas, the media coverage could and should do the trick.

Three months ago, I didn't give him a snowballs chance in a furnace, but he's come on leaps and bounds for me.
He's passed a lot of the tests asked of him, his Achilles Heel has been Dianne Abbott and to a lesser extent John McDonnell.

If, and it's still an outside bet imo, he were to win, choosing his front bench will be massively critical.

He's been admirably loyal to Abbott, but she's a train wreck and he would needs to put the country first over personal loyalties.

Hate to say it, but I think May will still win, but the margin of victory is going to be a helluva lot slimmer than she imagined the morning she called the election and serve her damn well right !!!!!

Guess we'll find out tomorrow evening! Should be interesting either way...

 

[Tubey]

A contradiction struck me before... Labour are going to do a bit better than expected because of Corbyn, but they'll also lose heavily because of Corbyn.

It's weird.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

It's like a Donald Trump scenario happening in reverse this. May and the Tories could very easily end up losing because they basically beat themselves through their own arrogance and incompetence. Corbyn derserves massive credit no matter how this election goes, even if he loses he's given the Tories the fright of their lives and proven himself a compitant leader that can take the party fforward as either PM or leader of the Opposition.

 

[AndyC]

Guess we'll find out tomorrow evening! Should be interesting either way...

Just watched his speech in Colwyn Bay.
He's passionate enough, but he's not a natural orator.
He's got important messages, but they tend to come out in a rather staccato fashion rather than a smoother, more polished delivery that would potentially attract wavering undecided.
The party hierarchy really should have got him some public speaking coaching.

 

[JimB1878]

A contradiction struck me before... Labour are likely to do a bit better than expected because of Corbyn, but they're also likely to lose heavily because of Corbyn.

It's weird.

You want to try maybe being a bit less absolute?

 

[sd_1992]

Just watched his speech in Colwyn Bay.
He's passionate enough, but he's not a natural orator.
He's got important messages, but they tend to come out in a rather staccato fashion rather than a smoother, more polished delivery that would potentially attract wavering undecided.
The party hierarchy really should have got him some public speaking coaching.

Went to his Wirral west rally a few weeks ago. Nowhere near the godlike public speaker people prentend he is. Just an average speaker who is passionate about what he says

 

[Tubey]

You want to try maybe being a bit less absolute?

Didn't you read the word "likely" mate?

 

[evilwebby]

I agree that Corbyn has come across rather well during the campaign, but you only have to look back to 2015 to remember how Ed Miliband was perceived to have run a pretty decent campaign and saw his ratings improve, but in the end was still completely rejected by the electorate. That is why I don't think that the groundswell of Labour support in the opinion polls will be translated into solid gains at Westminster.

Say what you will about the Tories campaign, but at least May has been putting herself about in difficult areas that would traditionally be considered no-go zones. She has clearly positioned herself as a "One Nation Tory". Sometimes being seen to take the difficult option gets you a lot of kudos. Cameron campaigned heavily in LD seats in 2015 and it paid off for him spectacularly.. the Tories do seem have a killer instinct when it comes to knowing what they need to do.

 

[Milkman]

I agree that Corbyn has come across rather well during the campaign, but you only have to look back to 2015 to remember how Ed Miliband was perceived to have run a pretty decent campaign and saw his ratings improve, but in the end was still completely rejected by the electorate. That is why I don't think that the groundswell of Labour support in the opinion polls will be translated into solid gains at Westminster.

Say what you will about the Tories campaign, but at least May has been putting herself about in difficult areas that would traditionally be considered no-go zones. She has clearly positioned herself as a "One Nation Tory". Sometimes being seen to take the difficult option gets you a lot of kudos. Cameron campaigned heavily in LD seats in 2015 and it paid off for him spectacularly.

No no no no no no no no no no no no

 

[JimB1878]

Didn't you read the word "likely" mate?

That's because I edited your post but nice try.

 

[Azzurri]

A contradiction struck me before... Labour are going to do a bit better than expected because of Corbyn, but they'll also lose heavily because of Corbyn.

It's weird.

Deep bro

 

[Little Ralphy]

Say what you will about the Tories campaign, but at least May has been putting herself about in difficult areas that would traditionally be considered no-go zones.

You don't seriously believe that?

 

[evilwebby]

You don't seriously believe that?

Dismiss it at your peril. Cameron campaigned heavily in LD seats in 2015 and we saw how that went. Political parties have a lot more data than even the pollsters, I dare say that they have some pretty smart people crunching the numbers and telling them where to concentrate their campaign. Anyone who think otherwise is imo rather naive.

 

[Tubey]

That's because I edited your post but nice try.

Haha well done! Got me there - your edited post is pretty much what I meant to say though (hence why I didn't notice the edit!)