Current Affairs 2017 General Election

2017 general election

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 24 6.5%

  • Labour

    Votes: 264 71.0%

  • Tories

    Votes: 41 11.0%

  • Cheese on the ballot paper

    Votes: 35 9.4%

  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.1%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Total voters
    372
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davek said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40153536

Corbers came out swinging their tonight.
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He should have left well enough alone. It's a topic that he's easy pickings on - too many contradictions in his past and the Tory response is as predictable as it is effective; how can someone who has opposed anti-terror measures suddenly pretend to be strong on terrorism?

His angle is to to try and focus it on domestics but people will just see the end game of terrorists blowing themselves up and stabbing random people and then see a PM who isn't going to be hard on them - that's why Corbyn should deflect away from anything security related.
 
Connor said:
Absolutely stunning that this hasn't become a bigger thing.
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"You cannot protect the public on the cheap. The police and security services must get the resources they need, not 20,000 police cuts. Theresa May was warned by the Police Federation but she accused them of "crying wolf"."
Mr Corbyn also called for "some difficult conversations" with Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states, saying they have "funded and fuelled extremist ideology".

Two head shots right there.

Keep banging away on those two points all week and the social care bombshell and see what happens on Thursday. That;s all Labour can do now.

Corbyn and his team have run a very good campaign with the PLP hiding under their rocks...they didn't need them.
 
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Tubey said:
He should have left well enough alone. It's a topic that he's easy pickings on - too many contradictions in his past and the Tory response is as predictable as it is effective; how can someone who has opposed anti-terror measures suddenly pretend to be strong on terrorism?

His angle is to to try and focus it on domestics but people will just see the end game of terrorists blowing themselves up and stabbing random people and then see a PM who isn't going to be hard on them - that's why Corbyn should deflect away from anything security related.
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Easy pickings? Remind me how the polls went in the wake of the Manchester bombing?

These attacks are all on 'strong and stable' May's watch.

This is proof her policy of handing arms over to the Wahabist Saudi terrorist sponsoring regime has taken British lives.

THAT makes this a LP strongsuit.
 
Tubey said:
He should have left well enough alone. It's a topic that he's easy pickings on - too many contradictions in his past and the Tory response is as predictable as it is effective; how can someone who has opposed anti-terror measures suddenly pretend to be strong on terrorism?

His angle is to to try and focus it on domestics but people will just see the end game of terrorists blowing themselves up and stabbing random people and then see a PM who isn't going to be hard on them - that's why Corbyn should deflect away from anything security related.
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When did Corbyn oppose anti-terror measures? Do you mean in 2005, when just under half of all MP's opposed them because they were deemed to undermine human rights? In fact, the anti-terrorist act was totally re-written in 2011 because it was deemed incompatible with human rights laws.

Corbyn would not have cut 20,000 police officers. He would have protected the people of Britain far better than May has done.
 
davek said:
Easy pickings? Remind me how the polls went in the wake of the Manchester bombing?

These attacks are all on 'strong and stable' May's watch.

This is proof her policy of handing arms over to the Wahabist Saudi terrorist sponsoring regime has taken British lives.

THAT makes this a LP strongsuit.
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Only things that have damaged May are her robotic delivery of pre-packaged slogans and the Dementia Tax. Not terrorism.

Corbyn with that speech has done two things - highlight his pacifist idealism (hence why his shoot to kill video is one of the most watched things on the BBC site right now) and emphasised his economic weaknesses by pledging money left right and centre and only offering a vague promise to hit the rich to fund it, which the middle-class electorate that win elections will dismiss.

If he wanted to focus on it, it should have solely been the Saudi Arabian angle - keep it specific to foreign policy and diplomacy.
 
Seanjd said:
When did Corbyn oppose anti-terror measures? Do you mean in 2005, when just under half of all MP's opposed them because they were deemed to undermine human rights? In fact, the anti-terrorist act was totally re-written in 2011 because it was deemed incompatible with human rights laws.

Corbyn would not have cut 20,000 police officers. He would have protected the people of Britain far better than May has done.
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... and in the minds of a lot of voters, bankrupted the country in the process.

Whether you agree with that or not is largely irrelevant too. People see a socialist playing loose with peoples' taxes. That is why he will lose this election - because a redistribution of wealth message does not resonate with the middle-classes who decide elections. That's a cold, hard fact, as unpalatable as it may be, because ideally if there were a way to do it and not cripple economic growth, it'd be great.

So whilst you see Corbyn as someone who would have kept the force 20,000 officers stronger, alot of people will think "at what cost".
 
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