Current Affairs 2017 General Election

2017 general election

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 24 6.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 264 71.0%
  • Tories

    Votes: 41 11.0%
  • Cheese on the ballot paper

    Votes: 35 9.4%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.1%

  • Total voters
    372
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The Metropolitan Police - the force most likely to bear the brunt of any major terrorist threat - has a Specialist Firearms Command (SC&O19), with a carefully protected budget, but in the wake of the Paris attacks the Commissioner announced that the number of armed response vehicles had already been increased. And while the capital's armed capability had been reduced by one-fifth since 2008-09, he was looking for ways to reverse this trend.

But it is not just the armed police response that is crucial. As is true of all policing - counter-terrorism is no different - successful operations rely upon information flows from the public and intelligence gathering.

Here again, budget restrictions will almost certainly reduce, perhaps radically, the numbers of PCSOs on the streets - part of the public face of the service - and are likely to pose significant challenges to neighbourhood policing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34899060

Prof Tim Newburn from the LSE is a specialist in policing and criminology.
 
Cult Corbyn in full effect again..

Today's Extreme Islam is probably the best 'marketed' terror philosophy ever thanks to the internet. It's so accessible to anyone that many of the barriers between their message and the man on their street have been removed.

Would extra police numbers reduce the numbers of people viewing the material that jihadists are pumping out?
 
Cult Corbyn in full effect again..

Today's Extreme Islam is probably the best 'marketed' terror philosophy ever thanks to the internet. It's so accessible to anyone that many of the barriers between their message and the man on their street have been removed.

Would extra police numbers reduce the numbers of people viewing the material that jihadists are pumping out?

Are you putting forward an argument for internet censorship and monitoring here pal because that's a very dangerous road to go down.
 

Oh yeah, you've really got me there...

Look at the article again - she was reprimanded for the presentation of the argument, not the argument itself.

Out of Corbyn's own mouth is the lack of support for shoot to kill. That hasn't been spun - it just wasn't a response to the Paris Terror Attacks specifically.

So... "boom".
 
Are you putting forward an argument for internet censorship and monitoring here pal because that's a very dangerous road to go down.
Not at all, more saying there's a huge disconnect between the Model of how this ideology is being spread and conventional wisdom on how to deal with the spread of extreme ideologies.
 
Oh yeah, you've really got me there...

Look at the article again - she was reprimanded for the presentation of the argument, not the argument itself.

Out of Corbyn's own mouth is the lack of support for shoot to kill. That hasn't been spun - it just wasn't a response to the Paris Terror Attacks specifically.

So... "boom".

The whole shoot to kill argument is in my opinion a complete distraction it's a shoot to stop policy that's the training . That policy obviously kills people but the intention is to aim at the centre mass to stop , the only time the shoot to kill element is in any way partially applicable is 'kratos' (don't know what it's called now but that's what it was called a few years ago )which is in relation to suicide bombers but isn't to completely destroy the brain stem and prevent or attempt to prevent the activation of the vests.
 
Oh yeah, you've really got me there...

Look at the article again - she was reprimanded for the presentation of the argument, not the argument itself.

Out of Corbyn's own mouth is the lack of support for shoot to kill. That hasn't been spun - it just wasn't a response to the Paris Terror Attacks specifically.

So... "boom".

No, if you look at the article itself he was expressing a concern about a "shoot to kill" policy in a general sense in the UK (doubtless wary of the secret "shoot to kill" policy of the RUC in Northern Ireland in the 80s)....

The Labour leader had been responding to a question asking whether he would be happy to order police or military “to shoot to kill” on Britain’s streets – and not specifically regarding a Paris-style attack in the UK.

An important difference.

Frankly, I find it extraordinary that we're here arguing about JC's competence in such a situation when he's always been pretty measured and at least honest in his views. May and her like (and I include Blair et al in this) are happy to fund and sell weapons to the sponsors of the terrorists who attack us and nobody seems remotely arsed.

Step away from the official narrative and just think about that for a moment.....






(......boom?)
 
No, if you look at the article itself he was expressing a concern about a "shoot to kill" policy in a general sense in the UK (doubtless wary of the secret "shoot to kill" policy of the RUC in Northern Ireland in the 80s)....



An important difference.

Frankly, I find it extraordinary that we're here arguing about JC's competence in such a situation when he's always been pretty measured and at least honest in his views. May and her like (and I include Blair et al in this) are happy to fund and sell weapons to the sponsors of the terrorists who attack us and nobody seems remotely arsed.

Step away from the official narrative and just think about that for a moment.....






(......boom?)

Actually, if you listen to the interview in full, it was clear the context the question was in. At the bottom here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34832023

The whole discussion starts with Paris, then talks about Iraq, Syria and so on. The whole discussion was about the growth of and dealing with Islamic extremism. The 'Shoot to Kill' response was a direct response to that context, around 7:50 in to the interview onwards.

As for selling weapons to Saudi Arabia, it's wrong. Simple as that. Not sure what you want me to 'think about' with that - we shouldn't be doing it. But that's a separate issue to what we're talking about here.
 
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