Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[zzr45]

All I see is a black scene. You will have to give facts and figures and regions. The 31st October 2016 is not the 1st. June 2016. If it is the same 'sample' 13 000 people over 6 years and with the same response for the 'Top Regions' for those that liked her. You are finding very difficult to back up your statement that Sturgeon is 'universally disliked in England'.

Using this yougov poll to attempt to have a go at Corbyn through a possible coalition with the SNP, is as bad as all the other attempts to discredit him. A yougov poll is no absolute authority on whether Sturgeon and/or the SNP are liked or 'disliked universally' in England. Haven't the credibility of polls been questioned?

My poll of all polls puts Labour on 60%, Tories 0%, Libdems 10%, undecided 10% will not vote because they are all the same 20% (which is a bit low considering 33% didn't vote at the last election). My poll of all polls asked the simple question - do you like Sturgeon - to the same 10 people and the results were Sturgeon 80% approval, 10% don't like her and 10% I'm off to the pub so can't stop.

It's not over six years, it's the latest poll data they've obviously done. If 0 is 'neutral' then what the results showed were +40 in central Scotland, +20 in south Scotland. It was -0.4 in Wales (understandable) -2.6 in the West County (again understandable with the Cornish independence movement) and from there on in its between -7 to -20. So I'd say that's an example of disliked in England.

Neither was it an attack on Corbyn, it's simply pointing out that they aren't popular in England.

And don't try and use a buzz feed article from 2 years ago with cherry picked tweets in as proof. It's a bit weak.

 

[Clint Planet]

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

I am pretty sure in the last election a lot of people in England admired her during the campaign and wished they could actually vote for her. I, like others have said on here, have no issues with the SNP to be honest and I actually think she is a good leader as well.

I didn't have any issue with the SNP for a long time, I actually rather respected them and wished we had a similar party for us English that would put our interests first. That was until they decided that democracy wasn't important and they didn't have to respect the decision the Scottish people made in 2014. It became clear that democracy was an inconvenience that they merely suffered so long as it went their way. Most party's are like this if course but very few are quite so blantent in their contempt. They're crusade of independence is all that matters and be dammed to the democratic will of the people if that inconveniences their goal. I have since lost all respect I had for them and have very little time for the SNP these days.

 

[neil999]

Pretty anecdotal but i have spoken to people who are voting labour who i never thought would do before, also people seem more clued up/interested than they have before..i think social media has played a bigger part in it than traditional media think...defnitely has a differeent feel to last election

problem is if these people actually vote..

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Pretty anecdotal but i have spoken to people who are voting labour who i never thought would do before, also people seem more clued up/interested than they have before..i think social media has played a bigger part in it than traditional media think...defnitely has a differeent feel to last election

problem is if these people actually vote..

I wouldn't get your hopes up based on that type mate. They're the same type of fools who knew EVERYTHING there was to know about Brexit and what a disaster it would be for us, only to not bother to vote at all! Didn't stop half these idiots throwing a massive hissy fit after the results came through mind.

 

[Joey66]

Oh Joey, believing the lies from a Murdoch paper now.

You are full blown Tory now.

explain away the garden tax then?

 

[orchard]

explain away the garden tax then?

LVT is mentioned in the manifesto, in short, it will be considered, and I think the LP have gone on record stating it wouldn't be introduced in a hypothetical first term.

The Lib-Dem's , Greens, Con's and possibly SNP, are also investigating/firming up an introduction.

The Telegraph's owner's pushing your buttons to serve his own interests and you're playing Chicken-Licken to the tee.

 

[Number_25]

LVT would be a great idea, many economists swear by it.

 

[tsubaki]

explain away the garden tax then?

this article should provide some much needed guidance

 

[orchard]

LVT would be a great idea, many economists swear by it.

Depends on how it's calculated/applied imo mate.

If it's on the 'value' of land in this Country, it could easily be too expensive for genuine farmer's. There is a chance that it may not apply to productive land anyway. Another reason is to stop large bodies holding onto Brownfield, to help regeneration of our Towns/Cities.

Personally, I think it would be better to stop IHT exemption (after 50-100 acres first as I think we should be encouraging rural diversity with small farms), as this is used as a tax avoiding investment, driving land prices FAR too high.

 

[Milkman]

Corbyn's Brexit almost makes me wish I'd voted Leave. May's Brexit sounds like a sad and lonely turd outside the back of an A-road petrol station.

 

[tsubaki]

The Telegraph's owner's pushing your buttons to serve his own interests and you're playing Chicken-Licken to the tee.

Owners. They also own one island entirely, and most of a second.

God bless the people of Sark, by the way.

 

[orchard]

Owners. They also own one island entirely, and most of a second.

God bless the people of Sark, by the way.

I'm sure if they hate redistribution that much they refused to claim sub's on it

 

[Clint Planet]

Theresa May Has Totally F*cked It Up’ Tory Candidate Lets Rip At Dire Election Campaign

‘We deserve to lose,’ says another Tory candidate
1 day ago | Updated 4 hours ago

Owen Bennett Deputy Political Editor, HuffPost UK

Tory candidates are “f***ed off” with Theresa May for running a campaign that has “shattered” confidence in her ability to be Prime Minister.

The stark warning comes from a Conservative candidate seeking re-election in a marginal seat, and they told HuffPost UK that other colleagues across the UK share their frustration.

Another candidate seeking re-election was even more damning, saying that if Jeremy Corbyn wasn’t Labour leader, the Tories would definitely lose the election – “and we would deserve to.”

Even candidates who didn’t share the same pessimism as their worried colleagues agreed the campaign had been marred by “unforced errors” – with the u-turn on a social care cap being the prime example.

The ill-feeling sweeping across large numbers of Tory candidates means that even if May does deliver a sizeable victory on June 8, she will need to earn back the trust of her MPs – many of whom are angry she called an early election in the first place.

Speaking to HuffPost UK today, one candidate originally elected in 2015 said:

“It’s a completely different experience to what it was four weeks ago. It’s made my job a hell of a lot harder. It’s a completely different experience. I’m pretty f***ed off.

“People on the doorstep are telling me: ‘She’s going after pensioners, she doesn’t know what she’s doing, she doesn’t answer questions on the TV.’ I’ve switched from saying ‘vote for her’ to ‘vote for me’. It’s hard to understand how people in London who get paid a lot of money made such a clusterf*ck.

“People voted for her because of what they thought she was like rather than what she is like. It’s totally shattered the confidence of the parliamentary party.

“Colleagues up and down the country are just f***ed off.

“She said she wasn’t going to call a general election, and they’ve totally f***ed it up.

“If you were going to write what not to do in a campaign then running it on strong and stable leadership and changing your mind on everything would be it. It’s like something out of Yes Minister.

“People are now beginning to vote for Jeremy Corbyn. I find that hard to understand.”

Another Tory candidate – also first elected as an MP in 2015 – agreed with their colleague’s assessment of the Conservative campaign.

They told HuffPost UK: “If Jeremy Corbyn wasn’t leader of the Labour Party we would lose this election – and we would deserve to.

“Theresa May might get a big majority but she has definitely lost power in the party.”


When May called the General Election in April, the Conservatives were 20 points ahead of Labour in the polls.

That gap has since narrowed, with aggregated polling data putting Labour within nine points of the Tories.

A projection by YouGov today speculates there could even be a hung parliament with the Tories set to lose 20 seats.

 

[tsubaki]

Q: Do you agree with Boris Johnson about the audience at last night’s debate being the most leftwing he had seen?

May says Amber Rudd did an excellent job in the debate.

Q: Did you watch the debate?

May says Amber Rudd did an excellent job in the debate.