Current Affairs 2017 General Election

2017 general election

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 24 6.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 264 71.0%
  • Tories

    Votes: 41 11.0%
  • Cheese on the ballot paper

    Votes: 35 9.4%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.1%

  • Total voters
    372
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They have very, very selective memories mate. The 70s were so great, Thatcher was elected in celebration of their brilliance.

It's a sad indictment of the Tory party when their leader is being actively advised not to do any related appearances because she is so appalling at them.

I'm absolutely loving it.
Thatcher would utterly ruin Corbyn.

Embarrassing now for May.
 
Embarrassing now for May

The perception down here, is certainly. And that is what counts now.
It's very odd advice from her spin team.

A labour lead by the Blair / Campbell spin wizards would be all over it, but I honestly feel an apathy and not arsed attitude creeping into this election.
 
Thatcher would utterly ruin Corbyn.

Embarrassing now for May.

I feel the Tories are nearing the end of their cycle. I think they'll win this one, but there's only so long people will put up with austerity and the same old blame games while their living conditions get worse.
 
"Corbyn had been due to address large rallies in Swindon and Bristol on Wednesday night, but frontbenchers Angela Rayner and Jon Ashworth stood in for him.
Rayner, the shadow education secretary, told a crowd in Swindon that May was a “plastic Thatcher”, adding: “This prime minister is for turning but not for turning up.” "

Angela Rayner has come out with some absolute crackers this campaign. "Labour got their school meals from Jamie Oliver. The Tories are getting theirs from Oliver Twist" was another.

I think I'm starting to have a bit of a crush on her, actually.
 
May is losing it.. really she is.

This election is just surreal - Corbyn is almost the sanest one standing.. and May wants the electorate to rubber stamp a deeply divisive Referendum vote that, we are constantly reminded, was something the majority now do not want.. fancy asking the electorate to endorse a decision only 52% (of those who bothered to vote) endorsed. It is just bizarre.

Don't know who caught site of the T-May Political Broadcast last night.. a rather unfortunately delivered message. She looked like a nervous school ma'am and looked slightly ridiculous - replete with inelegantly short skirt when stood next to Angela Merkel... I certainly wasn't convinced by her "Brexit needs my Party" message..

Brexit on Cameron's Gravestone
Flash Election on May's... (perhaps)
 
The thing is, we either have a Corbyn from whom we've heard next to nothing about Brexit (and we can surely discount the vast range of domestic policies given the huge attention Brexit will demand) or May who is a laughing stock. Doesn't fill you with confidence does it?

Not even a little bit.

The only grain of comfort for me is that if/when May wins, she proves to be lots better in closed room negotiations than fronting an election campaign.

Feel very conflicted. I have been seriously impressed with Corbyn, but less so with a wish list approach, and his PLP support is worrying, to say the least.

But May has been a disaster.

As I have said many times, its all about Brexit this. And its the lesser of two evils to me. Or some vague Independent bloke we have standing down here.
 
The Labour manifesto seems hugely fanciful given the resources needed to oversee Brexit and the almost inevitable economic hit (short term at least). Standing still will be hard enough without nationalising several industries and goodness knows what else.
 
The thing is, we either have a Corbyn from whom we've heard next to nothing about Brexit

From Corbyns campaign, I think he's made it quite clear that his priorities are (1) get a deal, rather than having the "no deal better than a bad deal" approach, (2) negotiate in a co-operative spirit, rather than the "we'll be a tax haven" approach, (3) secure customs union membership, (4) secure rights of British nationals abroad.

I don't really know what else there is for the man to say, like how much detail are you expecting without him prejudicing their negotiating position?

I think he's made a fairly credible case in the last few TV appearances, personally, and I'm by no means a "Corbynista".
 
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Feel very conflicted. I have been seriously impressed with Corbyn, but less so with a wish list approach, and his PLP support is worrying, to say the least.

Is the "wish list" argument not just a poor attempt to discredit the guy?

The manifesto is fully costed and I've not heard any genuine arguments to suggest there are any serious black holes or errors in that regard.

The only arguments seem to be "so and so forgot the figures in an interview" which isnt ideal, but it doesn't change the fact that the figures exist.
 
From Corbyns campaign, I think he's made it quite clear that his priorities are (1) get a deal, rather than having the "no deal better than a bad deal" approach, (2) negotiate in a co-operative spirit, rather than the "we'll be a tax haven" approach, (3) secure customs union membership, (4) secure rights of British nationals abroad.

I don't really know what else there is for the man to say, like how much detail are you expecting without him prejudicing their negotiating position?

I think he's made a fairly credible case in the last few TV appearances, personally, and I'm by no means a "Corbynista".

I wouldnt expect anyone to list their details, other than a broad brush approach, which both have done, to be fair.

Its just that Corbyn has been excellent in the campaign, from a soundbite/hes ok, sort of way. But I just cannot see him having the nouse to actually negotiate, bearing in mind that he actually as never had to do it, like, ever.

His natural habitat is to be on the side of the contrary side of an argument, which in its self, isnt a bad thing, but his ability, or willingness, to put a trade deal head and shoulders above any pet projects of his, I worry about.

Or silent May. Christ on a bike.
 
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