Current Affairs 2017 General Election

2017 general election

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 24 6.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 264 71.0%
  • Tories

    Votes: 41 11.0%
  • Cheese on the ballot paper

    Votes: 35 9.4%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.1%

  • Total voters
    372
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Is it mandatory to memorise every single figure in your manifesto these days, or are interviewers after a quick headline by immediately asking, 'how much will it cost?'

Just because politicians can't put immediate numbers on randomly picked policies, that doesn't mean to say the policy isn't either costed or plausible, and I'm talking about politicians from all parties.
 
Is it mandatory to memorise every single figure in your manifesto these days, or are interviewers after a quick headline by immediately asking, 'how much will it cost?'

Just because politicians can't put immediate numbers on randomly picked policies, that doesn't mean to say the policy isn't either costed or plausible, and I'm talking about politicians from all parties.

Are you Diane Abbott?
 
That was disastrous for May...

With a bit of time to reflect, I doubt May's performance will have lost her anyone who was already going to vote for her, but probably won't win her many new voters either.

It was always going to be a bigger test for Corbyn because he had to persuade existing Labour voters and swing voters. I think he did a decent job on the former (@Joey66 notwithstanding), but it remains to be seen whether he sold his vision to many of the voters who will swing the election (I doubt it).
 
He is on about JC and the cringeworthy moment on Womans Hour. It is a bit bad.

Yeah, I didn't listen to it but can imagine it's pretty bad. However, just because a politician can't memorise every number in their manifesto, that doesn't mean to say that the number doesn't exist. I just think it's an easy score for interviewers.
 
With a bit of time to reflect, I doubt May's performance will have lost her anyone who was already going to vote for her, but probably won't win her many new voters either.

It was always going to be a bigger test for Corbyn because he had to persuade existing Labour voters and swing voters. I think he did a decent job on the former (@Joey66 notwithstanding), but it remains to be seen whether he sold his vision to many of the voters who will swing the election (I doubt it).
That is the thing as we get closer to the day a lot of people will just decide to stick with what we have got as they will be worried that Corbyn's Labour vision could be a disaster. Not saying they are right but I expect the Tories to win fairly easily even now.
 
Would be interested to see a good spread of votes on these twitter poll. Currently suffering on Tory votes, presumably due to Echo chamber of Everton Twitter.



 
I appreciate the timescales have been truncated somewhat in comparison, but the quality of the electioneering (and debate) in this campaign have been quite a bit worse than the Brexit campaign, and that was bad enough. Really is a poor state of affairs.
Made more noticeable when Abbott is 25% of the Labour campaign on our tv screens.
 
Is it mandatory to memorise every single figure in your manifesto these days, or are interviewers after a quick headline by immediately asking, 'how much will it cost?'

Just because politicians can't put immediate numbers on randomly picked policies, that doesn't mean to say the policy isn't either costed or plausible, and I'm talking about politicians from all parties.


This. We may as well elect that memory guy who can memorise the order of 4 decks of cards.

In that interview JC actually wanted to look the figure up to ensure accuracy, but the interviewer steamrollered him. It's bizarre that memorizing numbers seems to be the highest standard aspired to.

Diane Abbott was different, by the way, as she couldn't remember them so just made some numbers up, which is much, much worse.
 
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Is it mandatory to memorise every single figure in your manifesto these days, or are interviewers after a quick headline by immediately asking, 'how much will it cost?'

Just because politicians can't put immediate numbers on randomly picked policies, that doesn't mean to say the policy isn't either costed or plausible, and I'm talking about politicians from all parties.

Its fine imo to say you haven't got the figure off the top of your head but it's in the manifesto. It's absolutely not ok to bluff and make the figurs up like Abbott did, and then claim you were misquoted.
 
Were the Tories allowed to call Andy Burnhams similar proposal the death tax?

Except his was much fairer.

It is a dementia tax and should be called exactly what it is.

Call it a good/bad policy all you want, but it has nothing to do with dementia. Why not a diabetes tax or a Parkinson's tax? It's nonsense. It's an inheritance tax in reality, which is something that traditionally Labour have been big on (hence why a similar policy was proposed in the past).

We live in some kind of parallel world at the moment where the Tories are pinching Labour policies, and Labour supporters decide those policies are now rubbish/cruel/heartless etc.
 
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