Current Affairs 2017 General Election

2017 general election

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 24 6.5%

  • Labour

    Votes: 264 71.0%

  • Tories

    Votes: 41 11.0%

  • Cheese on the ballot paper

    Votes: 35 9.4%

  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.1%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Total voters
    372
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neil999 said:
Corbyn on armed forces -

You are doing your duty as you have done so many times before.

I want to assure you that, under my leadership, you will only be deployed abroad when there is a clear need and only when there is a plan and you have the resources to do your job to secure an outcome that delivers lasting peace.

That is my commitment to our armed services.
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neil999 said:
more corbyn

But the responsibility of government is to minimise that chance, to ensure the police have the resources they need, that our foreign policy reduces rather than increases the threat to this country, and that at home we never surrender the freedoms we have won, and that terrorists are so determined to take away.

Too often government has got it wrong on all three counts and insecurity is growing as a result. Whoever you decide should lead the next government must do better.

quite nuanced this i think..
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Very nuanced Neil. It's actually a very clever speech.

I tell you what it will be very interesting to see who LBC bring in to replace the hatespewer Hopkins in the next couple of weeks. I reckon it will be someone significantly left-leaning.
 
really interesting to see how this plays out, corbyn will completely stand out on his voting record unlike former labour leaders, if thats turns out to be a good or bad thing for him is yet to be seen
 
neil999 said:
more corbyn

But the responsibility of government is to minimise that chance, to ensure the police have the resources they need, that our foreign policy reduces rather than increases the threat to this country, and that at home we never surrender the freedoms we have won, and that terrorists are so determined to take away.

Too often government has got it wrong on all three counts and insecurity is growing as a result. Whoever you decide should lead the next government must do better.

quite nuanced this i think..
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He kept himself reasonably in check it seems
 
neil999 said:
really interesting to see how this plays out, corbyn will completely stand out on his voting record unlike former labour leaders, if thats turns out to be a good or bad thing for him is yet to be seen
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Can only be a good thing. The decision to have less McDonnell / Abbott in the media and more Jezza in prominent spots is doing serious work for him.

A little value bet on May not to be PM by the end of the year (not contingent on a Tory win) could be the way to go here. The Committee will put her to the wolves if the majority is under 40
 
orly said:
Can only be a good thing. The decision to have less McDonnell / Abbott in the media and more Jezza in prominent spots is doing serious work for him.

A little value bet on May not to be PM by the end of the year (not contingent on a Tory win) could be the way to go here. The Committee will put her to the wolves if the majority is under 40
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still time for them to mess it up!
 
neil999 said:
still time for them to mess it up!
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The thing is, cartoons like that despicable one in the Mail the other day at that front page of the S*n have no effect now as they've tried that line from the moment he got the job.

The main laughing stock - an easy cheap win - has been taken out of the main public eye, so that's gone too.

'McDonnell's a Marxist!!' - a large portion of the electorate will be a little hazy on what that means.

The general public have seen photos of young Jezza in Manchester, plus a Labour mayor, while May has (for security reasons understandably) been in Downing Street or (as today) abroad. Thatcher made a similar mistake of being abroad during a leadership challenge, it feels like dereliction of duty.
 
ToffeeTim said:
The one issue I do feel needs raised after that Corbyn speech is how on earth do you gain diplomatic successes with ISIS? I'm not sure they are particularly likely to be talked round....
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The main issue is the fact that we've destroyed the social, governmental and economic infrastructure in Syria Iraq and Libya - dealing with Isis means working with these countries (and their neighbours) to fill the vacuum that ISIS seeks to exploit.
 
orly said:
The thing is, cartoons like that despicable one in the Mail the other day at that front page of the S*n have no effect now as they've tried that line from the moment he got the job.

The main laughing stock - an easy cheap win - has been taken out of the main public eye, so that's gone too.

'McDonnell's a Marxist!!' - a large portion of the electorate will be a little hazy on what that means.

The general public have seen photos of young Jezza in Manchester, plus a Labour mayor, while May has (for security reasons understandably) been in Downing Street or (as today) abroad. Thatcher made a similar mistake of being abroad during a leadership challenge, it feels like dereliction of duty.
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That speech has the potential to win over people who arent that interested in politics and arent tribal..potentially hugely important
 
ToffeeTim said:
The one issue I do feel needs raised after that Corbyn speech is how on earth do you gain diplomatic successes with ISIS? I'm not sure they are particularly likely to be talked round....
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With them it would be difficult, but even they have relatively sane people you might be able to talk to.
 
neil999 said:
That speech has the potential to win over people who arent that interested in politics and arent tribal..potentially hugely important
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It was easily his most Blair-like speech - he even said "strong against terrorism and strong against the causes of terrorism" at one point.
 
just realised this could end up with my personal worst case scenario - increased tory majority, but corbyn still in charge...hmmm!
 
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