Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[zzr45]

There are newspapers that push right wing views and are sensationalist in nature against labour but not against the Tories.

Take the daily poisen sorry daily mail. That is the worse right wing paper ever. The torygraph isn't much better. Look at the headlines about red corbyn and going back to the 70's and scrunitising everything. They don't do the same to the tories.

The guardian kinda is a left wing paper but that's about it. The BBC has got worse and even an ex high level executive says the same now. So it's not popularist to say it now.

But is the problem that's right wing supporters that are consuming these media sources, so there's going to be more tailoring towards that? I wouldn't expect to pick up a copy of the morning star and expect to see glowing praise of Tory policy.

 

[ashwuk76]

But is the problem that's right wing supporters that are consuming these media sources, so there's going to be more tailoring towards that? I wouldn't expect to pick up a copy of the morning star and expect to see glowing praise of Tory policy.

But the problem is the more these papers push these headlines the more people believe it as there is no balanced view. And have we have seen people aren't always critical thinkers and just believe what's said in a newspaper or on tv.

Points for knowing about the morning star comrade.

 

[Mrk]

That's right tories, dance. Dance for us. But mostly keep squirming so we can enjoy it.

 

[Joey66]

WTF is this manifesto. How can they get away with being so vague? Where are the costings? Will anybody even scrutinise it to see if it adds up?

Utter waffle disappointed in that speech and elderly policy in detail many people will be disgusted only if Labour had a credible leader it would have been a cake walk for the centre ground party instead of corbynism - I cannot vote for anyone the Lib Dems are also pathetic!

 

[Tubey]

But is the problem that's right wing supporters that are consuming these media sources, so there's going to be more tailoring towards that? I wouldn't expect to pick up a copy of the morning star and expect to see glowing praise of Tory policy.

Exactly this mate. Had this discussion numerous times - the only difference between what the Daily Mail and Guardian do is that the Mail has attention-grabbing bottom of the barrel headlines, while the Guardian has 3,000 word sneering essays from witty intellectuals like Stewart Lee. They all exist to sell themselves.

 

[Blue 1]

Hang on, I thought those wealthy folk were fair game for their income to be taxed at 50%? Now they're frail and elderly.

I'm confused. Are we supposed to care for rich people or not?

The property value is to be set at £100,000 which basically covers every property in the country. They are saying "products will be available" to pay for your social care. What this means is that their billionaire mates will set up companies that give equity to these home owners to purchase their social care. Set the interest at say 6%, which is around the norm for equity loans. When the equity in their homes is down to £100,000 then start paying for their social care out of taxes and the money saved by taking away the winter fuel allowance. Sit back and let the interest consume the remaining £100,000.
When they die, said billionaire mates own the properties, which can then be let to the original owners kids for sky high rents.
Ten year plan turns UK into a wonderful high rent country and the masses have cleared up most of the debt created by the greed of the few by using the equity in their homes.
It also removes most of the incentive to own your own home.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

That's right tories, dance. Dance for us. But mostly keep squirming so we can enjoy it.

Lib Dem voter here.

 

[zzr45]

But the problem is the more these papers push these headlines the more people believe it as there is no balanced view. And have we have seen people aren't always critical thinkers and just believe what's said in a newspaper or on tv.

Points for knowing about the morning star comrade.

I think media outlets have swung a lot more towards one extreme as they compete more and more with the internet. There's a need to cater more and more to specific sections. People want reassuring in their views.

 

[Billy Dean]

But is the problem that's right wing supporters that are consuming these media sources, so there's going to be more tailoring towards that? I wouldn't expect to pick up a copy of the morning star and expect to see glowing praise of Tory policy.

I think its a mutual reinforcement. People also develop their views according to what they read and hear. If more and more of what they read or hear is sensationalist and right wing then more people will start to believe it. I think the vast majority of people take what they read/hear at face value and don't question it.

 

[tsubaki]

But is the problem that's right wing supporters that are consuming these media sources, so there's going to be more tailoring towards that? I wouldn't expect to pick up a copy of the morning star and expect to see glowing praise of Tory policy.

This is how the theory goes, but I am not sure how true it is any more. I mean - to use the Mail as an example - they are openly cheering the policies of Theresa May even though they slated almost exactly the same policies when Miliband proposed them; to the extent that we today see them celebrating the fact that hardworking families will be left with £100,000 after all the money has been taken away to pay for care costs.

 

[Clint Planet]

Imagine actual Evertonians voting Tory though.

I don't get it, myself.

 

[peteblue]

I'm actually okay with May going after the wealthy pensioners.

As am I, and I'm one of them....

 

[Joey66]

Lib Dem voter here.

Voted once for them Bruce an age ago - Dim Farron, and EU Clegg wanting another vote on the EU will not gsin them much more seats - it's a shame really when they cannot accept a democratic vote on the Eu Brexit they may gain a increase of seats, but never back to where they were before the coalition if Corbyn does get a hammering I can see a new centre ground party forming in the future if he stays on!

 

[abelard]

How would the Daily Mail report other policies through history if they were announced by Theresa May?

http://www.newstatesman.com/politic...t-other-policies-through-history-if-they-were

How would other policies through history have been reported by the Daily Mail had they been announced by Theresa May? Here are a few suggestions:

Logan's Run
MAY'S BIG IDEA TO CUT CARE BILLS

The Black Death

MAY: I'LL MAKE IT EASIER TO GET ON THE PROPERTY LADDER

French Revolution

MAY'S CAKE FOR ALL

Soviet show trials

MAY SWEEPS AWAY EU-LOVING JUDGES

Mary I's loss of Calais

FINALLY, WE'RE OUT OF EUROPE
The 1696 window tax
MAY: I'LL HELP FAMILIES SAVE ON SUNCREAM

The Puritan abolition of Christmas
MAY'S PRODUCTIVITY BOOST

MAY'S TURKEY REPRIEVE

MAY SAVES FAMILIES THOUSANDS ON NEEDLESS FOOT SPAS

Collective farming
MAY TO TACKLE OBESITY CRISIS

The cultural revolution
SPARROWS WERE OVER-RATED ANYWAY

King Herod's slaughter of male babies
MAY EASES PRESSURE ON SCHOOL PLACES

MAY'S BOOST FOR GIRLS' CHANCES IN STEM SUBJECTS

Death of the Princes in the Tower
MAY ENSURES STRONG, STABLE GOVERNMENT

Molotov-Ribbentrop pact
MAY'S NEW SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP

Opium Wars
AT LAST, A SENSIBLE CONVERSATION ON DRUGS

Roman withdrawal of legions in AD410
FINALLY, EUROPE IS OUT OF US

 

[Joey66]

As am I, and I'm one of them....

No meat on the bone just sound bytes from her - if she gets in the axe may fall even harder a death tax ?
She named the tories the nasty party - cannot see anything but more than waffle and too confident on getting in with a big majority it may oardon the pun come back to bite her on Election Day!