Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[Sarnia Kevin]

Education used to be free.
http://www.historyandpolicy.org/policy-papers/papers/university-fees-in-historical-perspective

Nothing is "free".

 

[tadao]

Personality?

"I don't agree with the Prime Minister, and I like the policies of the Labour Party - but I can't vote for him because of his personality."

I struggle with this, I really do.

You or I might do but, until political and economic education is at least on the agenda (from primary school level), then the tabloids and mass media dictate who and what will be elected.

 

[Sarnia Kevin]

In your opinion. I disagree with them but I wouldn't call them daft, they have their reasons. With other opportunities like apprenticeships available to them where they can get educated, work + payed, they would rather take that option than have the burden of debt, no matter how relaxed the repayment is.

@ToffeeTim @WycombeToffee on your points, no matter how you look at it, students coming out of uni have to repay that £37k, it doesn't change because it's over so long, it's still 37k which is far too much in my opinion. Should be either reduced or scrapped, something Labour will do and May won't, she'll actually do the opposite.

I'll bet that you are one of those people forever moaning about "the rich" not paying their fair share, and at the same time you are moaning about the fact that university graduates, once they become rich, will have to pay their fair share. Get real.

 

[Kendall's Dream]

I'll bet that you are one of those people forever moaning about "the rich" not paying their fair share, and at the same time you are moaning about the fact that university graduates, once they become rich, will have to pay their fair share. Get real.

Yes mate. Spot on.

 

[Sarnia Kevin]

Yes mate. Spot on.

I'm glad that you agree with me. Surprised but glad all the same.

 

[tadao]

Nothing is "free".

It's free to the students, that's the main factor in it.
The burden to economy of reducing the fees, not sure but, there will certainly not be as many new buildings, as there have been since the increase in tuition fees?

 

[Kendall's Dream]

I'm glad that you agree with me. Surprised but glad all the same.

It was sarcastic, you based your whole opinion of me on one post, with me saying tuition fees should be scrapped/lowered. What's the point in a proper reply?

 

[Tree13]

What's the point? We had a centre left leader in Miliband and lost, now Corbyn has taken Labour more left (wouldn't agree with people saying he is far left), so let's see how he goes. If he loses, then this great rebuild of the Labour Party will happen as people are predicting (more stating as fact) and if he wins then, a Labour Party in number 10 for the next five years rather than the Tories.

Going off on one here, but the ways Corbyn could win this election:
1. Gets a huge amount of young voters to actually vote, because they seem to swing to Labour
2. S... hits the fan with the Tory scandal (the £5m one) or the election investigation
Could probably think of more reasons but it's late and I'll probably be clutching at straws, I just think people are completely writing off Corbyn and while I do think the Tories will win, he has got a slim chance and you never know

Would you agree that a significant proportion of the electorate DO view him as far left though? And isn't that the issue that will keep Labour from getting elected?

And re your points 1):

1) If all the recent reports are true, there is now a greater number of 18-25 year olds registered to vote than ever before - how come they didn't vote for Labour yesterday / today?

 

[gorgeousgeorgeEFC]

Am I he only one who has a crush on Theresa May? I'm not a Tory, but I really quite fancy her. I particularly like her haughty tone.

 

[summerisle]

Am I he only one who has a crush on Theresa May? I'm not a Tory, but I really quite fancy her. I particularly like her haughty tone.

Lying haughty tone.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

I don't trust politicians at all,

Which is good common sense.

but what I have learnt is to keep the Tories out at all costs. Go and vote for the Green Party, just don't vote or waste your vote.

A vote Green won't keep the Tories out mate. Nor will a TUSC vote, a Lib Dem vote or anything else. It's Labour or the Conservatives will walk it. On a personal level voting for a smaller party is to be admired as a principled stand but the reailty is nobody will ever vote for them in big enough numbers to make a difference. There are exceptions of course like with the coalition government in 2010 but that election was an exception not the rule and the Junior partner in any coalition ends up effectively as a silent partner.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Lying haughty tone.

Well that's no secret is it! Every man, woman and their dog who has the slightest interest in politics knows Theresa May was a remain voter. I don't see how this is supposed to mean anything. May was giving the same old boring remain stick but after she was elected as leader by her party as leader she decided to uphold the democratic decision of the electorate, mainly because it would be political suicide to do otherwise.

 

[The Cowboy]

Which is good common sense.

A vote Green won't keep the Tories out mate. Nor will a TUSC vote, a Lib Dem vote or anything else. It's Labour or the Conservatives will walk it. On a personal level voting for a smaller party is to be admired as a principled stand but the reailty is nobody will ever vote for them in big enough numbers to make a difference. There are exceptions of course like with the coalition government in 2010 but that election was an exception not the rule and the Junior partner in any coalition ends up effectively as a silent partner.

Well that's not strictly true. Depends where you live. You may live in a Lib Dem / Tory marginal, for example.

Don't be thinking only a Labour vote will get the Tories out.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Well that's not strictly true. Depends where you live. You may live in a Lib Dem / Tory marginal, for example.

Don't be thinking only a Labour vote will get the Tories out.

I think you and me have had this discussion before mate and my view hasn't changed. Not enough people across the UK will vote Lib Dems on a big enough scale to make a difference. Particularly not with that embarrassment Dim Farron as leader who makes Jeremy Corbyn seem like Winston Churchill.

 

[The Cowboy]

I think you and me have had this discussion before mate and my view hasn't changed. Not enough people across the UK will vote Lib Dems on a big enough scale to make a difference. Particularly not with that embarrassment Dim Farron as leader who makes Jeremy Corbyn seem like Winston Churchill.

I'm not talking nationally. You made a sweeping statement that in order to remove the Tories, one MUST vote Labour. This is simply not true. If we had PR, then maybe.