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Sorry I can't see what the comments relate to mate!

It might be the case of do as I say, not as I do though ;)
Sounds like rubbish to me.
 


You've lost me mate, where have I made 200 comments?

And what has my view on certain alleged links being untrue got to do with me advising people be wary of accusing people of murder if there isn't clear evidence to support it?
 
They have trashed the reputation of a sweet and harmless old man who was leader of the opposition, to the point people have tried to murder him.

The difference between the two is that Corbyn was leader of the opposition, the trouble maker in Russia is an absolute nobody who's party have no seats. Our state has put similarly peripheral political figures in jail (see Tommy Sheridan, Julian Assange etc).
So apart from the nerve gas...and lets face it, we've all made the odd error of judgement, when it comes to the random use of WoMD, he's ok?

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Discuss; King Henry was only speaking hypothetically...just musing to the wall as it were, when he asked his..."is there nobody who can rid me of this turbulent priest" question - allegedly.
 
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But even what Stalin did, is far beyond what Putin has done.

I don't agree with Putin, but some of the criticism of him is too harsh. I see our lot in charge as just as bad.
You can deeply dislike the current Conservative and Unionist administration without indulging in anti-intellectual false equivalency. ‘Just as bad’ is an extraordinary claim given the fact that Russia are led by a bellicose former-KGB dictator. Come on now.
 
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Current affairs forum says hi :bye:
 
Hopefully uncle Uzzy has some more sponsorship lined up to add to the coffers from Tosun and Bernard going..... yesterday’s performance and what was on the bench suggests we desperately need it.
bit supprised USM or one of their companies haven’t picked the shirt sleeve yet tbh.
he’s apparently a bit of a philanthropist apparently so even if he didn’t you would think EiTC would have it temporary....
 
You can deeply dislike the current Conservative and Unionist administration without indulging in anti-intellectual false equivalency. ‘Just as bad’ is an extraordinary claim given the fact that Russia are led by a bellicose former-KGB dictator. Come on now.

In the broad sense, the behaviour while in office seems broadly similar, as the same with Trump. We just apply different contexts to it.
 
Whataboutery is not a valid reply

Well it's not whatabouterry and secondly of course making comparisons is valid.

If the US and or the UK want to potential put sanctions on an administration, why is it "invalid" to compare their behaviours? Far from being invalid, I would say it was essential.

So I'll ask again, do countries who's leaders try to
1) Throw out people's votes based on the colour of their skin
2) Suspend their elected assembly when they ask questions that scrutinise the executive
3) Leak statements like "crush the saboteurs" to their mates in the when questioned, within the context of one of their supporters murdering an MP in the months proceeding that statement (so a clear dog whistle)
4) Try to steal an election, by refusing to count votes
5) When you lose an election, to organise a coup, with supporters arming themselves and illegal invading the elected assemblies head quarters. Then with leading figures in your party telling those invaders, where the whereabouts of your political opponents are (knowing full well they are armed).

This is just the last couple of years. I'll be intrigued as to why you think it is "invalid" to discuss those tings, when the above 2 countries want to talk about sanctions for the political conduct to a third country. Should they not put their own house in order first perhaps? And not accuse those who highlight these crimes, that their views are "not valid" or merely "whataboutery"?
 

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