Osman

[zed]

no arteta or pienaar and we beat man city in the middle of a real bad run (very unlucky tho) i`ve always been a big fan of ozzie and the results will improve now hes back. some posters on here dont rate him- fools, watch us climb the league

 

[Chang Elephant]

One thing to mention - this dude is ONE HARD WORKER. I never ever ever see Osman not giving 150%. It's great.

I've seen him give 50% plenty of times

 

[brett angels left foot]

I've seen him give 50% plenty of times

Rubbish.

 

[toffeestillidie]

can't believe some are actually ****ging off his performance. he was once again deployed on the wing, not his natural position, and he still played better than arteta has played all season. went missing at times but i still thought he had a decent game at least

 

[chriswho]

can't believe some are actually ****ging off his performance. he was once again deployed on the wing, not his natural position, and he still played better than arteta has played all season. went missing at times but i still thought he had a decent game at least

Agreed 100%.

I see Osman a lot like I see Neville on our team. Though few on here "rate" them, the team is almost always more cohesive and passionate when they play. Both of them bring a whole lot more than their "God-given talent" to the pitch every day and I'm always happy to see Neville's leadership and Ossie's passion in our squad. Until one of our "more talented" players picks up those torches from them, they are valuable in the squad.

 

[DionDublin]

Agreed 100%.

I see Osman a lot like I see Neville on our team. Though few on here "rate" them, the team is almost always more cohesive and passionate when they play. Both of them bring a whole lot more than their "God-given talent" to the pitch every day and I'm always happy to see Neville's leadership and Ossie's passion in our squad. Until one of our "more talented" players picks up those torches from them, they are valuable in the squad.

no footballer should ever play for non footballing reasons.

phil neville is abysmal
osman is average in the middle, but moyes still plays him out wide and he is useless in such a position.

 

[chriswho]

i know you are just trolling DionDublin, but I'll still respond. What I am saying is that Neville and Osman are playing for "footballing" reasons - as form on the pitch is far more important than a players rating/ceiling.

Though I rate Arteta much higher than Osman, and Heitinga higher than Neville, such "ratings" mean nothing if it doesn't translate into form on the pitch (individually or for the team). And in those comparisons, right now, I'd much rather have Osman and Neville playing as they both seem to have some nice benefits in lifting the team.

If Arteta find's his form and desire to play for the blues again, I'm sure he will get better and I would much rather he be playing than Osman. Right now, that is just not the case though (hoping it changes tomorrow). When you see Arteta half-assing it around the pitch and demanding to take freekicks from Baines, and not pullling his weight, it is detrimental to the team. On the other hand, when you see osman running like a madman, sticking challenges, and showing his effort and passion, it brings up the whole team.

So while I agree that no footballer should play for non-footballing reasons, the things like leadership and passion ARE footballing reasons in my opinion.

 

[Chang Elephant]

On the other hand, when you see osman running like a madman, sticking challenges, and showing his effort and passion, it brings up the whole team.

What about when you see Osman do **** all away from home for six months at a time, or is there some collective amnesia going on about this?

 

[zed]

no footballer should ever play for non footballing reasons.

phil neville is abysmal

hes more than abysmal, hes a liability. wheres moyes head at playing the guy week after week

 

[best little spaniard]

Ok then, let's sort this

Zed & Chang Elephants memory=Osman on the right.

Everyone elses=Osman in the middle.


Comprende?

 

[zed]

Ok then, let's sort this

Zed & Chang Elephants memory=Osman on the right.

Everyone elses=Osman in the middle.


Comprende?

whoaa saphire! thats blatant post rigging right there, alls i said was ozzie is a sound player and the team benefits with him in, but agreed i`m no coach or tactician

 

[best little spaniard]

whoaa saphire! thats blatant post rigging right there, alls i said was ozzie is a sound player and the team benefits with him in, but agreed i`m no coach or tactician

Ooops, you were talking about Neville, not Ossie. Apologies.

 

[sotnas]

Cracking player... The most underrated player in our squad.

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

Oops that's it. Ossie didn't play so we didn't win.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

Cracking player... The most underrated player in our squad.

Bit of a hyperbole, I think Distin might push him for that.