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They just had a goalie who made some saves, and some strikers who scored some goals.They just had better players.
Had nothing to do with a lack of fight.
They just had a goalie who made some saves, and some strikers who scored some goals.
The worst of it is this: EVERYONE is conditioned to accept a collapse as legitimate. Players, managers and fans...and the media who report on us see it as an Everton trait. Even the new manager yesterday failed to call the collapse out. He just focused on the first 60 minutes and the offside goal.
This is an instititional charactetristic now. It's part of Everton just like the Leitch buttresses and Toffees and Dixie Dean. It's what we're known for. And anyone kidding themselves that it didn't go on repeatedly under Moyes needs to look at the number maulings we took from a goal or two down that turned into 5/6/7 nil pumpings.
It's the Everton Way and has been since Royle walked.
Honestly, this is all a bit much after losing 2-0 to Arsenal.
Everyone from Brands to Ferguson getting the blame, lack of heart, fight, passion, pretty much every player involved getting called out for not being good enough.
We just lost to a better team. Unfortunately we are a long way off being able to go to places like Arsenal and get a result.
All a bit melodramatic on here.
It's not melodramatic, it's a clear-headed and calm take on reality; a malady that needs to be recognised as a problem and then eradicated.Honestly, this is all a bit much after losing 2-0 to Arsenal.
Everyone from Brands to Ferguson getting the blame, lack of heart, fight, passion, pretty much every player involved getting called out for not being good enough.
We just lost to a better team. Unfortunately we are a long way off being able to go to places like Arsenal and get a result.
All a bit melodramatic on here.
The club has been mentally weak since the ending of the Roberto regime. Moyes was the only manager that had the players playing like it mattered. I have a feeling you could send this entire squad to any other side in the league (below the top 6 of course) and see their performances improve twice-fold. Something is horribly wrong at Everton.
The club has been mentally weak since the ending of the Roberto regime. Moyes was the only manager that had the players playing like it mattered. I have a feeling you could send this entire squad to any other side in the league (below the top 6 of course) and see their performances improve twice-fold. Something is horribly wrong at Everton.
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Points attained from losing position.
This data backs up some of your theory.
Moyes did instill a fighting spirit in the team.
Koeman inherited a lot of the Martinez players who did not gain points when we went behind.
Last season this has improved.
The concern now would be is Silva going to be another Martinez. Time will tell I suppose.
What bothers me the most is that if we had taken care of Wolves and Bournemouth, I think we crush Huddersfield and West Ham with a confident side.View attachment 49906
Points attained from losing position.
This data backs up some of your theory.
Moyes did instill a fighting spirit in the team.
Koeman inherited a lot of the Martinez players who did not gain points when we went behind.
Last season this has improved.
The concern now would be is Silva going to be another Martinez. Time will tell I suppose.
The main issue with our team is our defence, poorly drilled and too slow every one of them, right now of all our defenders I'd only keep 2 Dinge and Mina and only keep Mina because I haven't seen him play for us yet, bin the rest. This obviously gets into the heads of the attackers imigine going out every game knowing that you have to score at least 2 to get anything out of the game probably 3 or more to win, get stubbs back to work on defence it went to pot after he left at the start of Martinz 2nd season, and for the love of God get rid of Duncan Ferguson he's the only common factor under the last 4 failed managers.