2025/26 David Moyes

[Rita_Poon]

He doesn't even see this terrible record

you dug him out over the man utd away record, then went suddenly quiet.

you and mini-me showing your backside again.

again!

"Oh southgate my southgate..."

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Joe Royle got f.a. off Hamperman - his derby record:

Won 3
Drew 4
Lost 0

Big Joe, what a legend. All changed for us around then, shafted by the board, Kenwright starts making power moves, what could have been

 

[balggy]

There seems to be a difference between how Moyes defines his target for the season, and how I feel the owners probably define his target.

For Moyes, we constantly hear about Europe, how it’s absolutely imperative that we as a club secure some form of European competition next season.

I don’t think that was his target set by the owners. They spend £140 million last summer, much of it on young talent and other than KDH, it’s generally bombed on a massive scale. Literally a god awful transfer window.

I think the owners would have been happy with anything north of 12th, but on the proviso that he played and developed some of the young talent we recruited. I don’t think they were demanding Europe this season.

It’s for this reason why I think Europe has become so massive for Moyes. If we get to the end of the season and he hasn’t played and developed Dibling, Rohl etc. but he can point to European qualification, he’s on much firmer foundations for staying in post. But if he doesn’t get Europe, and he hasn’t utilised or developed last season’s summer signings, I can’t see how that goes down well with TFG.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

McNeil played well. It started to turn after he was subbed. George was very poor and Ndiaye didn't get a kick the last ten minutes.

Mate, on what planet did he play well? Our fans have some weird acceptance of low standards with him.

He's abysmal. And has the heart of a mouse on the pitch.

 

[Drico]

There seems to be a difference between how Moyes defines his target for the season, and how I feel the owners probably define his target.

For Moyes, we constantly hear about Europe, how it’s absolutely imperative that we as a club secure some form of European competition next season.

I don’t think that was his target set by the owners. They spend £140 million last summer, much of it on young talent and other than KDH, it’s generally bombed on a massive scale. Literally a god awful transfer window.

I think the owners would have been happy with anything north of 12th, but on the proviso that he played and developed some of the young talent we recruited. I don’t think they were demanding Europe this season.

It’s for this reason why I think Europe has become so massive for Moyes. If we get to the end of the season and he hasn’t played and developed Dibling, Rohl etc. but he can point to European qualification, he’s on much firmer foundations for staying in post. But if he doesn’t get Europe, and he hasn’t utilised or developed last season’s summer signings, I can’t see how that goes down well with TFG.

Agree with this - at least in terms of how Moyes should be judged. Europe would be a tangible achievement, but few of us expected that at the start of the season. Instead, we had hoped to see him build a new side and introduce young talent bought in the window. However, Moyes hasn't done the latter and is now in danger of missing out on his saving grace: Europe.

If you are not going to nurture and develop the best part of €100m of young talent, then you need Europe - especially as it is very achievable. I would prefer to move on from Moyes now that we have the much-desired "stability", but I recognise that he would deserve to stay on if he takes us back into continental competition. However, if he misses out, I'd draw the line and replace. It will be a close run thing, but given that half the league qualify and given that we have had every chance to make our claim, then I'd make Europe a precondition of continuation. He hasn't brought on the kids, so what has he given us to justify continuing? 11th - which is probably what will miss Europe - isn't cutting it.

 

[Bally1989]

A reminder why he needs to go in the summer but our new owners aren’t here to win.

 

[TimHowardsBeardJuice]

Mate, on what planet did he play well? Our fans have some weird acceptance of low standards with him.

He's abysmal. And has the heart of a mouse on the pitch.

McNeil was terrible. I wanted him off at halftime.

 

[Skroob]

Mate, on what planet did he play well? Our fans have some weird acceptance of low standards with him.

He's abysmal. And has the heart of a mouse on the pitch.

 

[Fonzy]

There seems to be a difference between how Moyes defines his target for the season, and how I feel the owners probably define his target.

For Moyes, we constantly hear about Europe, how it’s absolutely imperative that we as a club secure some form of European competition next season.

I don’t think that was his target set by the owners. They spend £140 million last summer, much of it on young talent and other than KDH, it’s generally bombed on a massive scale. Literally a god awful transfer window.

I think the owners would have been happy with anything north of 12th, but on the proviso that he played and developed some of the young talent we recruited. I don’t think they were demanding Europe this season.

It’s for this reason why I think Europe has become so massive for Moyes. If we get to the end of the season and he hasn’t played and developed Dibling, Rohl etc. but he can point to European qualification, he’s on much firmer foundations for staying in post. But if he doesn’t get Europe, and he hasn’t utilised or developed last season’s summer signings, I can’t see how that goes down well with TFG.

Thats a fair point

They may also consider we want to buy and develop young kids for future is it worth giving him 140 again this summer for them to sit on the bench

Or not come at all as saw Dibling/Rohl get next to no game time

 

[Fonzy]

A reminder why he needs to go in the summer but our new owners aren’t here to win.

How do you know they aren’t here to win? What have they done that says otherwise!

 

[Fonzy]

Find it hard to blame the manager much for that.

The first half an hour was the best we have played in a derby since 13/14. Totally dominant, totally fearless, aggressive and dangerous. The only time the “mentality” could be questioned was the 15 minutes after the non-goal and their goal. Heads dropped before half-time, understandably so, and it became timid.

Then after HT, he got them back into a position where they were good enough to equalise and looked the most likely side to find a winner. Then the best striker on the pitch got injured. Then the best defender on the pitch got injured. Losing Beto ended our chances of winning, especially when George came on and was just as bad as Barry. But some wanted George to start, and Moyes bringing him on for McNeil at that point was a logical move.

The second half had no momentum at all due to the stoppages and Liverpool’s time wasting, which the referee allowed and at times encouraged. They were happy for a point. They were not bashing down the door as we ran off frightened. We lost too much quality on the pitch to threaten, but even still would have been let down by a 1-1 result. Then they spawned a winner from a corner, because that’s what they do.

I think the reason this derby stings most is because it wasn’t like the other ones when we didn’t turn up or allowed ourselves to be run over. We were horribly unlucky in almost every aspect of the game and played well for most of it. The issue is the squad lacks depth and Liverpool still have a few decades left on their contract with the devil.

Moyes can’t or is unable to beat lpool or the top 6 in general his record is awful!

He is a glass ceiling manager. Will he get us relegated no

Equally is he the man to take us back where we think we belong absolutely not…

One trophy at West Ham in a competition where the wage budget and cost of his squad dwarfed everyone else is not much of an achievement…Palace are favourites to win same the competition and are 13th

 

[Igrok]

Tell you who would’ve won us that game, Gareth Southgate.

Iraola would have taken 5 out of 5 in these settings…

 

[Sharpies volley]

Was it purely down to the manager or also down to the fact Barry was terrible when he came on and losing Brainthwaite was a big blow too.

Unfortunately you can't compare us to City. Like the rest of the 'big 6' they are operating on a different scale to us.

It was the manager who brought Barry on. Branthwaite was unfortunate and he had no choice. But he could have changed it when Beto came off but as usual he goes like for like and Barry was so inafective.

 

[Timbucktoo]

It was the manager who brought Barry on. Branthwaite was unfortunate and he had no choice. But he could have changed it when Beto came off but as usual he goes like for like and Barry was so inafective.

Barry is the centre forward equivalent of McNeill, he can produce a lovely bit of skill that can get a winning goal, but you have to put up with so many terrible performances before he comes up with that match winning moment.

 

[RD2910]

Seen that MOTM interview. Basically wryly smiling and saying we didn't deserve that.

Just another derby loss to him. He doesn't even see this terrible record he has as a problem. And none of his army of media flutters ever bring it up so he's not arsed and never will be. Where on earth is his pride?

The worst derby manager of all time....by a mile.

Joe Royle got f.a. off Hamperman - his derby record:

Won 3
Drew 4
Lost 0

W2 D3.