2025/26 David Moyes

[Simon Buttle]

Well, he's won a European trophy and an FA cup. Which, if I'm correct, is one more trophy than David Moyes despite being a, what did you call it, a flavour of the month coach. Considering his lowly status, the fact he has a superior record must be a little embarrassing to such a titan of the game such as David Moyes. No?

Mate it won't count because he has never done a long stint anywhere.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

No matter what you spend you have to spend it effectively. Your target should be to address the main weaknesses in the starting 11 and ultimately build a balance squad. You can't do the balanced squad in one window, so the main priority has to be to address the first team weaknesses. For me these were RB, LB, RW, a no 6, and a first choice no 9. Now you can make a case for Garner being the first choice no 6, in which case you need a backup for him. To sort those positions out has to be the priority for me and to fail to do any of that is really poor imho.

I completely disagree.

 

[Efcjake]

It's unfortunate, but some people struggle with basic comprehension.

Pal, it's exactly what you've written isn't it. Perhaps you meant to write something else or use different words.

Straw man argument no one is just moaning because we didn't beat Liverpool and City! People are however moaning because they don't feel that we should have re-appointed the longest serving Everton manager to never win a trophy, and that he's too conservative and cautious as can be seen by his away record to clubs like City and Liverpool. Plus he made a mess of the summer transfer window.

"Too conservative and cautious as can seen by his away record to clubs like City and Liverpool" is absolutely moaning about not beating City and Liverpool isn't it. You couldn't even make it through your post without contradicting yourself and proving it's the exact argument you're making.

 

[davids]

Taking the utd job surely means he left doesn't it
or was he managing them at finch farm..

Left not forced out by the fans, there's a difference.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Well, he's won a European trophy and an FA cup. Which, if I'm correct, is one more trophy than David Moyes despite being a, what did you call it, a flavour of the month coach. Considering his lowly status, the fact he has a superior record must be a little embarrassing to such a titan of the game such as David Moyes. No?

You’re missing the point. He’s obviously very talented, but if you want someone who will stick around he doesn’t look to be the type.

 

[Swartzy]

Left not forced out by the fans, there's a difference.

I'm still lost on this m8, why would I say he was forced out, maybe go back and read the post..

I said the fans that wanted him gone got their way, which they did when he left ( for utd )

This is a very silly and needless debate.

 

[matty1878]

Okay fair enough. We are in transition, i don't think anyone would argue that we aren't. The question is what we are transitioning to and how that transition is going to happen.

New players (need time) ( we need more windows)

New ownership

New ground


manager steadying us from the previous mess

 

[matty1878]

On two wooden legs.

And it stands

 

[Jebus_lives]

New players (need time) ( we need more windows)

New ownership

New ground


manager steadying us from the previous mess

If recent history across the league shows us anything it's that you now, because of PSR, have to build gradually and make some gambles on younger players if you aren't currently in the top 6.

We need at least 4 windows of solid recruitment to resolve the issues we had. Some of those will be ready now players who we invest money in and others will have to be high ceiling types who take time to settle in.

My worry with Moyes is how he handles the transition between players as he tends to favour experience over youth and in my opinion, sometimes delays the 'blooding' of youngsters for too long in favour of loyalty towards steady hands.

Hes a solid enough manager for now while we transition, but he's cautious and risk averse and that unfortunately won't cut it long term.

 

[windymiller]

You’re missing the point. He’s obviously very talented, but if you want someone who will stick around he doesn’t look to be the type.

Winning two trophies with two different unfancied clubs in two different competitions renders the description "a flavour of the month coach" very unfair, in my opinion. That is what you called him. Whilst you also made the point about his tenure at a club, which seems entirely normal in the modern era, flavour of the month, a term you use a lot, is inaccurate in this case given his success across a number of years with clubs with limited funds and squads. It seems to me that you find flaws in most managers very easily but that you find it almost impossible to find a flaw at all in David Moyes despite his modest record of success. It's odd.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Winning two trophies with two different unfancied clubs in two different competitions renders the description "a flavour of the month coach" very unfair, in my opinion. That is what you called him. Whilst you also made the point about his tenure at a club, which seems entirely normal in the modern era, flavour of the month, a term you use a lot, is inaccurate in this case given his success across a number of years with clubs with limited funds and squads. It seems to me that you find flaws in most managers very easily but that you find it almost impossible to find a flaw at all in David Moyes despite his modest record of success. It's odd.

He has flaws like anyone else, but he’s a good builder. That means he’s one of the best to carry the club forward and rebuild a strong squad and team. Glasner didn’t have to do that at Palace as the pieces were already in place.

 

[davids]

I'm still lost on this m8, why would I say he was forced out, maybe go back and read the post..

I said the fans that wanted him gone got their way, which they did when he left ( for utd )

This is a very silly and needless debate.

"They got their way"?
He was leaving for United whatever. If he'd had 100% support and a statue outside Goodison's main entrance he'd have left for United. He's very lucky,most clubs supporters would never have accepted him back after the way he deceived the fan base.

 

[58 toffees]

i’m pretty sure TFG have their own plans
and moyes is here for stability not to win
is the league

or any cups

 

[hetion]

If recent history across the league shows us anything it's that you now, because of PSR, have to build gradually and make some gambles on younger players if you aren't currently in the top 6.

We need at least 4 windows of solid recruitment to resolve the issues we had. Some of those will be ready now players who we invest money in and others will have to be high ceiling types who take time to settle in.

My worry with Moyes is how he handles the transition between players as he tends to favour experience over youth and in my opinion, sometimes delays the 'blooding' of youngsters for too long in favour of loyalty towards steady hands.

Hes a solid enough manager for now while we transition, but he's cautious and risk averse and that unfortunately won't cut it long term.

It drives me crazy how many people don't understand this. People in the transfer thread advocating breaking the bank for Ivan Toney...that's how we end up continuing to spin our wheels forever.

It's too early to say this *will* happen, but I'm concerned if Moyes doesn't start trusting the new young players by at least mid-season then we'll a) miss out on a lot of possible development for them and b) exciting young players next summer will say not a chance I'm coming there to sit on the bench.

 

[Neiler]

It drives me crazy how many people don't understand this. People in the transfer thread advocating breaking the bank for Ivan Toney...that's how we end up continuing to spin our wheels forever.

It's too early to say this *will* happen, but I'm concerned if Moyes doesn't start trusting the new young players by at least mid-season then we'll a) miss out on a lot of possible development for them and b) exciting young players next summer will say not a chance I'm coming there to sit on the bench.

Was saying last night that Jags, Baines and Arteta all didnt come into the team quickly after they signed or initially started that well - maybe a reference point in manging this transition.