2022/23 Sean Dyche

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Yep and Dyche has no history of improving an attack. Averages less than a goal a game across over 250 games in the Prem. People are forgetting that until Christmas we had a good defensive record, it was the attacking side we couldn't do.

We've now brought in a manager who has no history of improving this to improve this.

Cant be arsed, man.
And that's how the rot set in; its a confidence thing. It was like the players knew they couldn't score, once we went 1 down they gave up.

Now that could be bad management, but replacing him with someone who doesn't go out of his way to create chances is just replacing like for like
 

I think Bielsa would have been a better choice, not only for football reasons but also because of what that would have meant (a recognition that the club as a whole needed to change).

Of all the many things Moshiri has got wrong as an owner, none is greater than allowing the specialists in failure that are the board to continue. In seven years what one achievement do they actually have? He has just surrendered to them again with this.

100%. We need changing from top to bottom. We’ve been here with Dyche and it doesn’t work. And this time we have too much to do. Another poor choice. Another step back.
 
You know who I feel sorry for the most, all the boys and girls and men and women, brothers and sisters, husbands and wives, boyfriends and girlfriends and grandparents and best mates who go and watch Everton week in, week out

I'm actually quite fortunate that I work weekends and only have to put up with the odd match here and there. It's depressing listening to the commentary, it's depressing watching it on the TV, it would be even worse chucking money away week in week out and get nothing but embarrassment out of this club for your troubles.

I'm absolutely sick to the back teeth of people sniping about the fanbase, "oh they hound this player, oh they hound that player (that means you @Gareth Gibson and @gorgeousgeorgeEFC as the pair of you are like the twins out of the Shining). No one could point a single finger of blame if every Evertonian just decided to call it a day after the way this club has been run into the ground.

The fanbase is the only true thing to be proud of. Home and away, wind and rain there'll be there in numbers trying their very best to will this club to hold itself account to standards that we used to have and are now long gone.
 
I was gutted at first but only until I realised it was my pride / ego that didn't want Dyche vs logic.

He doesn't do your street cred any good & we'll likely take a lot of stick from other supporters for appointing him but...

His no-nonsense approach, 4-4-2 and this time having more resources / better talent at his disposal could make us a hard-to-beat, formidable opponent once more.

I think we're going to be pleasantly surprised & he's likely one of the few managers that could come in and avoid relegation.

Like it or not, this appointment is sensible and was the right call for where we are right now.

Davide Ancelotti can be hired 12-18 months from now when we're comfortable, mid-table & have a balanced squad.

Your ego will just have to wait, as will mine...
 
And he also had Digne, James, Sigurdsson, Richarlison and Dom before he broke

Now we have a fullback that can't venture past the half way line, a winger that doesn't take people, another winger that doesn't have a brain, a creative player who just runs around and a striker who is clearly broke (either physically or mentally).

The defence will be an easy resolve, going the other way is the issue. You win games through scoring and creating chances, which I presume a lot of people wanted Bielsa for - play the odds, the more you create the greater your chance of scoring.

Either way, both were the wrong choice IMO, it just shows the ineptitude of the club and the clear lack of vision

When we were winning games in that Christmas period under Ancelotti with the ‘wall’ at the back of Holgate Keane Mina Godfrey, fans would often say ‘he should get Digne back in the side and we’ll create more going forward’ but every time he tried to do that we ended up losing games because Digne did not stop crosses and we would concede whereas we very rarely scored from anything he created up the other end.

When we have decent strikers, wide players, and attacking midfielders, then we might want to look at whether full backs should contribute in the build up play, but at the moment it would be crazy for a manager to look at this group of players and decide to try and blast his way out of trouble. Absolutely crazy.
 

Remind me of the average PL footballers wage again?
Some am not saying all players want to work under certain managers yeah the money helps but we literally only got Onana because of Frank. Or he would have just went to west ham who probably offered the same money. normally players will want to go to bigger clubs but they generally have the better managers anyway. No chance James would have rocked up here if we didn’t have Carlo as manager. Yeah I get football players now days are motivated by money. That said if two clubs similar offer the same wage then it’s down to the manager to convince them to come.
 
Not going to say people have the wrong view on him, but is who it is now. Agree that you have every right to question his style, but we just have to give him a chance now. For me it is the players we bring in will show what the club wants to do
 

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