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Marco Silva “We dominated the game”

Marco Silva was at a loss to explain how Everton lost 2-0 to Aston Villa.

Marco Silva: “It is really difficult to see how we can lose this game when we create so many chances to score. It is a tough place to play football.

“We started well and controlled the game with some dangerous moments around their box. The first time they went in our box they scored.

“We spoke during thew week that Villa like to play fast set-pieces and they did that we switched off. In the first moment it was 1-0. We react and had a clear chance with Dominic [Calvert-Lewin] to make it 1-1.

“In the second half it was more with our team in the middle and them with nine players around the box. Even then we created chances to change the result for us. We had the shot off the post and the clear chances with Theo [Walcott] and Lucas [Digne]. In my opinion we should achieve more in this game but if you don’t score from the chances you create.

“The most difficult thing is to create and when you do you have to put the ball in the net.

“It is concerning about the goals we didn’t score and of course we should score more. Against Palace we created lots of chances to score and didn’t and again today.

“We didn’t deserve the result in my opinion. We dominated the game, created more chances but we didn’t score and when you do that it is difficult to win a football match”

Editor
  1. At no point during the match were we every dominating Villa. Toothless possession 30-40 yards out, followed by the occasional hopeless cross, is not dominating the game.

    What a clown.

  2. Love the club; but at times the fan base as a whole seems to become characterized by some toxic individuals that do not understand football. Please just stop. You are genuinely an embarrassment to the rest of us.
  3. I don’t think he is wrong. I think before Villa scored, we had 3 chances, and a penalty appeal.If we score 1 of them, it changes the game, we had about 6 more clear chances, hit the post and towards the end of the game we were playing 2-2-6 pushing for the equalizer and got hit on the break and its 2-0.

    If we keep creating the chances we will win games, we just need someone with composure in the box to finish the chances off, hopefully Kean is that man

  4. I think there’s good reasons why the majority of managers seem to make changes at or around the 60 minute mark.

    You presumably named your best team and sent them out with a plan. If it’s gone wrong you get a chance to speak to them at half time, tweak instructions etc and hopefully they can deliver on the original idea, this allows you to retain the chance to influence the game with changes if it’s still going wrong.

    You maximise the impact of fresh legs as the game moves into the latter stages, which would be significantly reduced if changes were made at half time.

    Some of your subs may only have 30 mins of football in them if they’re carrying knocks etc.

    I know what you’re saying mate, but the game was crying out for a change at half – time. I sure it was Koeman who did it, he realised how he had set – up wasn’t working so he changed it just before half – time. I’ve got a mind like a sieve mate so not sure what game it was and who he brought off (think it may have been McCarthy?) thinking about how bad my memory is, it may have even been Allardyce who was the manager at the time.

  5. Pundits who know more than you do are questioning why we didn’t get an experienced striker in, we all know Kean is a hot prospect, that’s not the issue.
  6. Can’t comment on the match as I didn’t see It but the consensus seems to be that we were pretty toothless again. From what I’ve read we only had one shot on target. That is not dominating. Cut the crap Marco and get your act together

    We started well, like we have in all three games. After they scored we we’re pointless.

  7. Yep, if it’s not working in the first half then why not make the changes at half – time.

    I think there’s good reasons why the majority of managers seem to make changes at or around the 60 minute mark.

    You presumably named your best team and sent them out with a plan. If it’s gone wrong you get a chance to speak to them at half time, tweak instructions etc and hopefully they can deliver on the original idea, this allows you to retain the chance to influence the game with changes if it’s still going wrong.

    You maximise the impact of fresh legs as the game moves into the latter stages, which would be significantly reduced if changes were made at half time.

    Some of your subs may only have 30 mins of football in them if they’re carrying knocks etc.

  8. I dont think his statement was that bad – he clearly noted that we switched off for the first goal and that we missed sitters.
    Martinez would have said "we played fabulously in the moment but just failed to capitalize on our industry and hard work"
    BFS would have said " We came for a draw and I thought we would nick it at the end, but I dont put the ball in the net, thats Calvert Lewis’s job"
    Koeman would have said "We had a plan and we stuck to it but hey thats foetball!"
  9. We didn’t dominate but we created enough to win tbh or at least a score draw, Still think we should have had a clear penalty.
    Villa weren’t dominate they just took the chances they had, They didn’t offer much apart from long balls to Wesley.
  10. Poor choice of words from Silva, but we ultimately created enough chances to get at least a point. DCL, Iwobi and Theo all could have scored at different periods
  11. Oh our first 20 minutes was the best we looked in years. Had they given the penalty, it might’ve been different. It went downhill from there, but when you have the ball 65% of the time and miss 2 sitters, it wasn’t a complete disaster.

    That suggests we have it in us and Silva deserves more time. We should do what the other half did a few years ago and get in the best sports psychologist we can find as well.

  12. I didn’t watch the game but was keeping tabs on BBC football. Two minutes before they scored the text literally described how villa looked inept as our passing resembled ‘total football’… then they scored. As was the case during our bad spells last year we seemed to lose confidence after the goal. As was the case last year it seems that it’s our mentality/resilience that really lets us down.

    Oh our first 20 minutes was the best we looked in years. Had they given the penalty, it might’ve been different. It went downhill from there, but when you have the ball 65% of the time and miss 2 sitters, it wasn’t a complete disaster.

  13. Can’t comment on the match as I didn’t see It but the consensus seems to be that we were pretty toothless again. From what I’ve read we only had one shot on target. That is not dominating. Cut the crap Marco and get your act together

    the game was a Martinez era performance, so much of the ball but doing nothing with it

    that being said, we should have scored with 2 easy chances and maybe silva doesn’t get all this stick, blaming the manager only goes so far when the game was littered with individual mistakes

    but then again, detest managers coming out talking bollocks when they’ve been beat, just say we didn’t play well, which we didn’t

  14. Can’t comment on the match as I didn’t see It but the consensus seems to be that we were pretty toothless again. From what I’ve read we only had one shot on target. That is not dominating. Cut the crap Marco and get your act together
  15. I didn’t watch the game but was keeping tabs on BBC football. Two minutes before they scored the text literally described how villa looked inept as our passing resembled ‘total football’… then they scored. As was the case during our bad spells last year we seemed to lose confidence after the goal. As was the case last year it seems that it’s our mentality/resilience that really lets us down.
  16. Do you honestly think we played well?

    No, but conversely, you think we were sackably bad? worth binning off before seeing any of our new players playing properly?
    We actually played some nice football, missed some sitters and played some nice football, went all out attack on 60 minutes and should of equalized at the least. Certainly wasn’t a great performance, but far from worthy of the sack surely?
    If that was worth binning him for, I would suggest we bring in managers on zero hours contracts from now on.

    Isn’t it like 3 defeats in 14 matches or something?

  17. Our spirit away from home is absolutely disgusting and is the underlying issue here, and it goes back a lot further than Silva and quite a few of the players in the team on Friday.

    Either that gets sorted or we’ll be irrelevant forever. You aren’t going to do anything in the Premier League if you only scrape less than 5 away wins across a season.

  18. I can’t take another transitional season. Silva’s comments are worrying if he thinks that was acceptable, he seems to be saying we were unlucky, when in reality we were clueless.
  19. I think it is just a honeymoon period for Kean…a simple 5 yard pass would be suffice for rapturous applause from all 4 corners. It is what it is. Hope he goes on to be brilliant but even though little time he hasn’t pulled up any trees. Hope he does.

    If Walcott doesn’t aim for the international space station with his shot, he would have had an assist in about a half’s worth of football, expectation so high as I expected.

  20. Hate to say it but Brenda looks like he’s got Leicester up and running again. Why we weren’t in for Maddison I’ll never know.
  21. He is like a sloth

    Take it you don’t rate him, I’ll give him time and see how he turns out, he’s been playing in a very poor team since he made his debut and had to make his own way, getting no guidance of struggling senior players, same as Jonjoe Kenny and DCL, left to their own devices, you could be correct in your opinion, I’d give them a little leeway myself.

  22. need players to get on the end of crosses i lost count how many where put in the box we need runners into the box getting on the end of them, can understand why he has said 4-3/3 so to get more seems 2 sit deep atm which gives the opposition defence an easier time

    28. Our high last season was 29.

  23. need players to get on the end of crosses i lost count how many where put in the box we need runners into the box getting on the end of them, can understand why he has said 4-3/3 so to get more seems 2 sit deep atm which gives the opposition defence an easier time
  24. The Martinez touch of trying to make a turd sound like a custard tart

    We were woeful. We could have gone top but played like it was an end of season mid table clash.
    The lack of fight does me in

    Agree with this completely, we seem to go to games like we’re that good we’ve won already then get are arses smacked, the likes of City and RS go into games like it’s the biggest game of the season and put them away, we seriously need to realise were not as good as we like to think we are and need to go out to win from the first minute

  25. 3 games 2 tough away fixtures 4 points you cant ask for more surely

    Can say every away game is though but a newly promoted team who’ve lost their opening 2 games and a poor palace team without their best player is hardly 2 tough away games ( considering )
    We have played poorly in all 3 games

  26. The most noticeable difference was when they got the ball they always looked for the forward pass, we don’t. We go side to side and every pass and move we make is so obvious. We need to be quicker.
  27. Some of you actually seem serious about Marco going three games into a season where we have had a win, a draw and a loss.
    He’s right, we dominated that game, possessino, shots, corners, everything but the scoreline, Theo and DCL should hang their heads in shame over those misses. He set us up to win, and we should of.

    We had four attackers on at one point and we were still out passing them, what more can he do when the strikers don’t hit the goal?

    Do you honestly think we played well?

  28. Yes understand some of the summer signings might not have been fit enough, but Tom Davies whether you like him or not was fit and would have offered the energy that neither Sigurdson or Gomes were offering, or for that matter Schneiderlin, who does the least he can possibly offer.

    I am not sure Tom Davies and energy should be said in the same sentence.

  29. Disagree. He’s already done far more than Calvert lewin in a fraction of the minutes.

    I think it is just a honeymoon period for Kean…a simple 5 yard pass would be suffice for rapturous applause from all 4 corners. It is what it is. Hope he goes on to be brilliant but even though little time he hasn’t pulled up any trees. Hope he does.

  30. This is true but we also know what they are capable of. We also have to look at the replacements for these that are actually 100% fit

    Yes understand some of the summer signings might not have been fit enough, but Tom Davies whether you like him or not was fit and would have offered the energy that neither Sigurdson or Gomes were offering, or for that matter Schneiderlin, who does the least he can possibly offer.

  31. He got it wrong. Nothing was working and the players were not performing but he decided to waste another 15 mins or so, hoping the same crap would work out. We had one shot on target and he sticked with a league one striker when we have Kean on the bench.

    Sound mate, looks like your sticked in your opinion and I’m not gonna bother to change it

  32. Its easing a kid into a new environment. He needs to be given time to play at his best. Guarantee 3 games without a goal and the knives would be out with some people.

    Disagree. He’s already done far more than Calvert lewin in a fraction of the minutes.

  33. Is the reason these threads pop up because of the run of 5 wins in 19 games last season, 5 wins in one half of a league season. We just dont have faith in him as we should because that appalling run of results from last season and the fact it could happen again on his watch?
  34. Sometimes, but Sigurdson and Richarlison haven’tplayed well since the season started and Gomes was having a stinker and didn’t look fit..

    This is true but we also know what they are capable of. We also have to look at the replacements for these that are actually 100% fit

  35. It is not unusual for managers to send out the players with a rocket up there bum hoping for a positive reaction. It didn’t work on this occasion but has been known to work many a time. The manager has to make decisions that haven’t got the benefit of hindsight. Some decisions work and some don’t and no manager can hold there hand up and say they make 100% correct decisions

    Sometimes, but Sigurdson and Richarlison haven’tplayed well since the season started and Gomes was having a stinker and didn’t look fit..

  36. We had more possession,more chances against a very poor team, as some have pointed out Silva should have made changes at half time, he had plenty of choices who to take off, four or five players were absolutely putrid, then Villa sat back in the second half and gave us the whole pitch to play in,it wasn’t ‘til he made those subs that we started looking like we could score.

    It is not unusual for managers to send out the players with a rocket up there bum hoping for a positive reaction. It didn’t work on this occasion but has been known to work many a time. The manager has to make decisions that haven’t got the benefit of hindsight. Some decisions work and some don’t and no manager can hold there hand up and say they make 100% correct decisions

  37. Its easing a kid into a new environment. He needs to be given time to play at his best. Guarantee 3 games without a goal and the knives would be out with some people.

    That is a cert just like it is a cert that the manager should be sacked because of a loss to a non top 6 side. It is bordering ridiculous

  38. We had more possession,more chances against a very poor team, as some have pointed out Silva should have made changes at half time, he had plenty of choices who to take off, four or five players were absolutely putrid, then Villa sat back in the second half and gave us the whole pitch to play in,it wasn’t ‘til he made those subs that we started looking like we could score.
  39. The game was lost because Silva decided not to make any change after the crap display in the first half.

    He made the changes at the 60th minute and we had 2 clear cut chances after that, neither where scored. It’s the players fault in the end, I do agree the changes should’ve been done earlier but again, he cant teach Walcott (who is 15 years into a professional football career) to not lean back when shooting.

  40. Yeah we did have chances for sure, but even so, just look at Watford, Kean did more in the last 10 minutes and his reward, the bench. Its poor man management.

    Its easing a kid into a new environment. He needs to be given time to play at his best. Guarantee 3 games without a goal and the knives would be out with some people.

  41. I see what you mean, but the Villa game was lost by the half time whistle, too not change it then and give them a chance was criminal

    The game was lost by the players inability to finish chances. If Dom finishes that chance, we would’ve been all over them going into halftime and been favourite for the game. Villa only got the second because we were pushing for an equaliser. Quality of finishing separated us.

  42. Brands must be going mad, all the great work he has done in the summer and the manger dosent play ball

    I dont think he is, because I’m sure he recognises that players take time to bed in and get used to the league. Neither Iwobi or Kean had played in a friendly for us. If DCL wasnt so rubbish I dont think we would’ve seen Kean starting consistent games until maybe October.

  43. On Brands this, he’s had long enough to see that scoring goals is a major problem and then he went about the transfer window the way he did, utter charlatan.

    Yeah, he didnt sign one of the hottest striking prospects in Europe or anything. I see what you mean.

  44. Am i missing something we’ve played 3 n only lost one, yes we have issues but asking for silvas head so early in the season is bonkers, pitchforks were at the ready prior to the season starting

    I don’t think anyone seriously wants him gone this early, but he must improve drastically if he’s to stay in the job.

    Last year he had the Allardyce mess to fall back on. This year he’s two seasons into the job and has probably had more investment in the playing staff than any manager outside of Guariola and Klopp during his time here.

    Results are demanded now.

  45. Am i missing something we’ve played 3 n only lost one, yes we have issues but asking for silvas head so early in the season is bonkers, pitchforks were at the ready prior to the season starting
  46. Some of you actually seem serious about Marco going three games into a season where we have had a win, a draw and a loss.
    He’s right, we dominated that game, possessino, shots, corners, everything but the scoreline, Theo and DCL should hang their heads in shame over those misses. He set us up to win, and we should of.

    We had four attackers on at one point and we were still out passing them, what more can he do when the strikers don’t hit the goal?

    They were winning, they let us have the ball! I can’t believe some people still don’t understand that.
    edit; not that I want him sacked btw.

  47. Some of you actually seem serious about Marco going three games into a season where we have had a win, a draw and a loss.
    He’s right, we dominated that game, possessino, shots, corners, everything but the scoreline, Theo and DCL should hang their heads in shame over those misses. He set us up to win, and we should of.

    We had four attackers on at one point and we were still out passing them, what more can he do when the strikers don’t hit the goal?

    I take this with a pinch of salt, we had a possession which mainly went between Gomes Schneiderlin and Mina, then it went to the wings before transpiring into nothingness.

    We never really knocked on villas door until the last 15 minutes, apart from Doms awful miss we never looked like scoring.

    It was a “we won the stats” argument to try and gloss over one of the worse displays I’ve witnessed in a very long time.

    Should he be sacked?? Hell no, it’s ridiculous at this time. But does he have issues that he needs to resolve?? 100%

  48. This is delusional.

    It’s also called having a positive mental attitude. He’s not going to explain it like that to the players. What if one or more of those chances had gone in? Would then be a case of good teams have a way of getting results even when not playing well? I’m happy that the chances were created, if not taken. As the season goes on, and the new players settle in, we’ll not only make more chances but put a lot of them away.

    Palace have proved that the Sky six are not infallible so it’s good that we can get the bad performances out of the way before we come up against any of them.

  49. Some of you actually seem serious about Marco going three games into a season where we have had a win, a draw and a loss.
    He’s right, we dominated that game, possessino, shots, corners, everything but the scoreline, Theo and DCL should hang their heads in shame over those misses. He set us up to win, and we should of.

    We had four attackers on at one point and we were still out passing them, what more can he do when the strikers don’t hit the goal?

  50. a shot or two at goal might help instead of messing about with the ball around the area or out wide, don’t know the figures but we really don’t try the keeper out very often at all.

    Indeed.

    Got to admit that It was a bit disheartening this morning watching MOTD and seeing other teams scoring goals!

  51. a shot or two at goal might help instead of messing about with the ball around the area or out wide, don’t know the figures but we really don’t try the keeper out very often at all.
  52. What the manager says after the game isn’t said under oath, remember that. His duty is to get the team winning football games and playing well. You may not agree that Everton dominated the game, and I don’t think Silva ages with his own statement.

    However, his post match interview is the first move in the next challenge. What he says there has an impact on the players. I wager that if he said ‘it was terrible, Gomes and Schneiderlin were awful, DCL us useless’ that wouldn’t (usually) be a constructive start to picking up the squad, getting them ready and believing they can win.

    Mourinho is an example, he used to deflect attention well after a bad by being polemical and making the story about himself. Martinez tried to emulate this but eventually came off as deluded because his choice was to be relentlessly positive.

  53. I agree but chances change complexions and if Calvert Lewis would have buried that chance we would have won in my opinion. We gave them something to hang on to and you can’t encourage any team that in this league.

    Yep thats it really mate, we let them get their noses in front at home and all that means after a 2 years outside of the PL at home, we cant constantly make allowances for DCL, hes a nuisance and a fine athlete, but goals win games and those chances need to be buried.

    Im all for backing young players, giving them time and patience but their comes a point when the return needs to be analysed and that return on a contribution to results.

  54. What?Silva is known as an attacking manager that has to be rubbish. That being said the sideways passing and constant crossing needs changing up he also needs to rip up the formation and personnel

    "…that has no idea how to defend". He’s worked on that end and gotten good results. He’s got to figure out how to balance the 2 as he seems to set the team up way too cautiously now.

  55. A lot of work goe’s on at Finch Farm, that we the fans, will never know about.

    But I can tell you one fact, no training time at all takes place, re shooting, taking chances, ann general forward play.

    What?Silva is known as an attacking manager that has to be rubbish. That being said the sideways passing and constant crossing needs changing up he also needs to rip up the formation and personnel

  56. There’s little point watching Everton away from home. Most teams in the league are better on the road than us. As a club from top to bottom a culture ha been ingrained where players and managers just rock up to away grounds with absolutely zero intention of trying to win. League games are just casually chucked away without a fight and the club seems bemused why fans are switching off.

    What culture are you talking about SD? Only Coleman has more than a couple of years with us.

  57. We did dominate the game, he’s bang on the money.

    I agree but chances change complexions and if Calvert Lewis would have buried that chance we would have won in my opinion. We gave them something to hang on to and you can’t encourage any team that in this league.

  58. A lot of work goe’s on at Finch Farm, that we the fans, will never know about.

    But I can tell you one fact, no training time at all takes place, re shooting, taking chances, ann general forward play.

  59. You know someone is panicking when he starts providing a long list of half arse lame justification.

    This will be a messy season.

  60. Take the long view: we have consistently improved in every area of the pitch since he took over; the defensive unit (whole team, not just the back five) is looking better than it ever has since Moyes left; and our offensive output — chance creation rather than conversion — is also far better than it was.

    There are still areas of improvement, and that is a good thing. The reason I’m not alarmed is because it’s clear Silva knows where they are and knows what he wants. I see no reason to think he won’t sort out the attack in the same way he sorted out the defence.

    I think the team has regressed since he took over attacking wise

  61. I wouldn’t be quick to say the defense is fully sorted. It’s still a work progress for me and one injury we could well be having a very different conversation in a few weeks.

    The attack on paper should be producing a lot more end product. Something is a miss up top. Dcl isn’t helping but that weird shot thing from Sigurdsson looked like built up frustration to me.

  62. The choice of players to haul off in the double substitution was a very poor call. DCL was stinking the place out and Gomes head was gone, was a red card waiting to happen (not for the first time either when things aren’t going our way). Poor.
  63. It’s commonly mentioned that if you play badly and win, that’s a sign of a good side.

    So, if you flip that situation…then you have some merde to do, Marco.

  64. Disturbing comment that is. Just goes to show how you can spin stats. We are so poor upfront with no end product. Alarm bells should be loud and deafening instead of this lame comment.
  65. You just expect it now. I am not sure when or how it can be changed.

    I had a top day out yesterday but was mindful that the game was on at 8pm.

    I decided to stay at the seaside and have fun with my family and just saw the score when I got home at 10pm.

    The club needs to do something to alter this malaise of mid table nothingness. It has been 2 decades+.

    I am battle worn sadly. It just isn’t fun seeing different managers/players produce the same outcomes. Rinse and repeat.

    There’s little point watching Everton away from home. Most teams in the league are better on the road than us. As a club from top to bottom a culture ha been ingrained where players and managers just rock up to away grounds with absolutely zero intention of trying to win. League games are just casually chucked away without a fight and the club seems bemused why fans are switching off.

  66. DCL or Tosun who is too static and would have easily been handled by Mings.

    An off form / tired Richarlison or Walcott who adds pace?

    Not sure what other options Silva could have used seeing as both Kean and Iwobi are lacking match fitness…

    Kean isnt fully fit…he looked shattered after comimg on as a sub vs Watford so its unlilely he would last more than 30mins against Villa.

    DCL at least gave their defenders something to think about with his movement and knockdowns while Tosun is just a lamppost and really we should be trying to find a buyer for him.

    I think the issue stems from the back. Neither Mina nor Keane are particularly fast on the turn so we need to sit deeper than last season…

    Then of course Schneiderlin is just heartless and Gomes (as you mention) was just dreadful.

    If we had more athleticism in Central Defence + Gbamin as Defensive Midfielder then we could have pushed far higher up the pitch…

    By giving Gomes a license to roam forward weve then got Schneiderlin sitting and personally i think thats suicide.

    There were 3 chances which we should have scored and thats taking into account that the starting 11 were all atrocious aside from Mina.

    Personally id have taken a draw before the game…id take a draw for any away game in the league.

    Mate tuson would have finished that chance and as for being static , Ming’s handled DCL easily all game. Walcott adds pace but what use is it to have someone that can do the 100m in 10seconds but kicks the ball into row Z from 8 yards out when he gets there?

  67. Don’t think anything worked in the first half. He was too stubborn to make changes at half time. Today performance was disgraceful much like the 2-0 defeat against Fulham last season.

    Was almost exactly the same as Fulham as you said , right down the the DCL missed sitter that would have brought us level

  68. Yes + yes.

    No and no.

    I still can’t see where I mentioned what other teams or we spent. I mentioned us getting rid of players to free more money, but if you don’t read it like that, that’s fine. I also said other teams would like the problems Silva has with putting out a side, not all the money he has spent.

  69. Was like something from Koeman or Allardyce, or Martinez second season. I don’t know what’s wrong with this club sometimes. No matter who the owner is, who the manager is, what standard of player we have we are always capable of producing that cookie cutter away performance of just utter ineptitude with no fight whatsoever.

    You just expect it now. I am not sure when or how it can be changed.

    I had a top day out yesterday but was mindful that the game was on at 8pm.

    I decided to stay at the seaside and have fun with my family and just saw the score when I got home at 10pm.

    The club needs to do something to alter this malaise of mid table nothingness. It has been 2 decades+.

    I am battle worn sadly. It just isn’t fun seeing different managers/players produce the same outcomes. Rinse and repeat.

  70. I’d say it was a quite a lot of money wouldn’t you? He’s also had the benefit of getting rid of dross to free up extra funds, if you want to look at it in your football manager way. Bernard wouldn’t have come here for buttons so the wages as well agents fees are included.

    So who’s fault is it that he’s picking the same tactics and formation? Is it the fans? I bet 14 of the other Premier League managers would love to have the problem Silva has putting a side out. Do you think his tactics utilise the players we have?

    Exactly.

    Does it? Did I mention what anyone had spent? So you are saying Villa’s manager would rather have our squad or theirs.

    Just proves how great a manager Silva is then getting the most out of his players.

    Yes + yes.

  71. Villa spent more than we have on their new signings.

    Kind of ruins your argument.

    Does it? Did I mention what anyone had spent? So you are saying Villa’s manager would rather have our squad or theirs.

    Just proves how great a manager Silva is then getting the most out of his players.

  72. The players then wonder why the Goodison atmosphere isn’t always a bear pit when they produce that sort of stuff on the road.
  73. Was like something from Koeman or Allardyce, or Martinez second season. I don’t know what’s wrong with this club sometimes. No matter who the owner is, who the manager is, what standard of player we have we are always capable of producing that cookie cutter away performance of just utter ineptitude with no fight whatsoever.
  74. I’d say it was a quite a lot of money wouldn’t you? He’s also had the benefit of getting rid of dross to free up extra funds, if you want to look at it in your football manager way. Bernard wouldn’t have come here for buttons so the wages as well agents fees are included.

    So who’s fault is it that he’s picking the same tactics and formation? Is it the fans? I bet 14 of the other Premier League managers would love to have the problem Silva has putting a side out. Do you think his tactics utilise the players we have?

    Exactly.

    Villa spent more than we have on their new signings.

    Kind of ruins your argument.

  75. Thats why i said during the transfer window when lots of posters were excited about Zaha that defences would just sit back, point and laugh.

    Movement wise we have Sigurdsson who is a ghost and i cant remember him making any/many through balls Vs their packed defence…or any other this season.

    You then have Richarlison who is a blunt instrument, DCL who is blunt and Bernard who was a bit islolated imo.

    Kean and Iwobi provided a great deal of movement but without a true 10 of a box to box player theres limited scope for what Silva can do.

    I think Schneiderlin is a heartless coward and Villas counters were effective against him and our CBs because theres limited pace there.

    Id have taken a draw away at burnley a couple of seasons ago, Villa arent any different imo.

    Sounds like youre playing football manager in your head if you arent balancing the purchases with sales and simply saying Brands/Silva have spent alot of money…

    6 players in that team werent signed by Brands/Silva:

    Digne £18mil
    Mina £27mil
    Gomes £22mil
    Bernard Free
    Richarlison £35mil

    Not exactly a fortune is it + anyone in the ‘real world’ and not a computer game can see that football is about partnerships and sadly having Schneiderlin + Gomes + Sigurdsson + DCL as a central starting spine is asking for trouble.

    The most interesting part of your post is slating the manager for picking players ‘out of form’ when theres no one in the squad fully match fit who would do a guaranteed better job.

    Exactly.

    I’d say it was a quite a lot of money wouldn’t you? He’s also had the benefit of getting rid of dross to free up extra funds, if you want to look at it in your football manager way. Bernard wouldn’t have come here for buttons so the wages as well agents fees are included.

    So who’s fault is it that he’s picking the same tactics and formation? Is it the fans? I bet 14 of the other Premier League managers would love to have the problem Silva has putting a side out. Do you think his tactics utilise the players we have?

    Exactly.

  76. But Zat it’s been the same from the start of the season, and in times last season. The play is predictable and he needs to address it.

    You can park buses in the gaps between defence and midfield, and midfield and attack. Teams are just sitting in those holes, all the play goes out wide and we get swamped. We’ve created next to nothing in 3 games

    I wouldn’t have taken a draw because they’re an awful side, we should be putting that to bed 2/3-0 easily.

    But our chronic lack of off the ball movement is killing us, we lack serious options going forward because of the setup

    Thats why i said during the transfer window when lots of posters were excited about Zaha that defences would just sit back, point and laugh.

    Movement wise we have Sigurdsson who is a ghost and i cant remember him making any/many through balls Vs their packed defence…or any other this season.

    You then have Richarlison who is a blunt instrument, DCL who is blunt and Bernard who was a bit islolated imo.

    Kean and Iwobi provided a great deal of movement but without a true 10 of a box to box player theres limited scope for what Silva can do.

    Unfortunately you need a player like Gueye, to give Gomes the freedom to roam, as he covers every blade of grass behind him.

    Watching it last night, it looked like Gomes ( as badly as he played ) had been told not to advance too far forward, which I`m guessing is because Silva knows that Schneiderlin isn`t capable of doing Gueyes old roll.

    We desperately need Delph to be fit, as with our current midfield we`re gonna get ripped to shreds by anyone with pace in their team.

    Villa are no better than a Sean Dyche Burnley team and played in a similar fashion, fouling, going down all the time, hoofing the ball etc, but we looked exposed every time they counter attacked.

    In saying that, if Co Co the clown Lewin would`ve scored that sitter, I`m pretty it would`ve been a different game.

    I think Schneiderlin is a heartless coward and Villas counters were effective against him and our CBs because theres limited pace there.

    Id have taken a draw away at burnley a couple of seasons ago, Villa arent any different imo.

    Not hard really to see really is it? He shapes the tactics, picks the team (and continues to pick players out of form),and he has spent a lot of money no matter what anyone says, I don’t care what he’s recouped for selling dross.

    Be great if a new manager could come in and get rid of everyone and start again, but this is real life not FIFA or Football Manager.

    Sounds like youre playing football manager in your head if you arent balancing the purchases with sales and simply saying Brands/Silva have spent alot of money…

    6 players in that team werent signed by Brands/Silva:

    Digne £18mil
    Mina £27mil
    Gomes £22mil
    Bernard Free
    Richarlison £35mil

    Not exactly a fortune is it + anyone in the ‘real world’ and not a computer game can see that football is about partnerships and sadly having Schneiderlin + Gomes + Sigurdsson + DCL as a central starting spine is asking for trouble.

    The most interesting part of your post is slating the manager for picking players ‘out of form’ when theres no one in the squad fully match fit who would do a guaranteed better job.

    Honestly never take any notices of managers interviews after a game.

    Exactly.

  77. It’s not just that game, Watford hit the post and welbeck missed a sitter aswell.

    The loss of gueye has been huge, the better teams will exploit that. How easily did villa get into the final third yesterday

    We got near the final third loads of times but were completely clueless once we got there. This has got to stop as it has been going on for years.

    The subs give me some hope but the starting 11 especially midfield and forwards depress me.

  78. It is clear that the manager wants to play Man city style dominate possession and then the opposition will eventually fold, rather than the other main approach a la RS of move the ball forwards quickly and regularly accepting you may lose it half the time.

    No issue with this, but last night shows it is far easier for a team without city level quality to adopt the latter approach than the former. If the team clicked it will be great, just not sure the 1 – 11 quality is there to do it, or the 4 2 3 1 lends itself.

  79. We had 1 shot on goal and lost two nil to a team that will probably be relegated you absolute clown. This isn’t the first time or even the second that this has happened in his tenure.
  80. Unfortunately you need a player like Gueye, to give Gomes the freedom to roam, as he covers every blade of grass behind him.

    Watching it last night, it looked like Gomes ( as badly as he played ) had been told not to advance too far forward, which I`m guessing is because Silva knows that Schneiderlin isn`t capable of doing Gueyes old roll.

    We desperately need Delph to be fit, as with our current midfield we`re gonna get ripped to shreds by anyone with pace in their team.

    Villa are no better than a Sean Dyche Burnley team and played in a similar fashion, fouling, going down all the time, hoofing the ball etc, but we looked exposed every time they counter attacked.

    In saying that, if Co Co the clown Lewin would`ve scored that sitter, I`m pretty it would`ve been a different game.

    Spot on, Gomes was exposed by the tat around him.

    One injury to this CM and we are utterly snookered.

    I would hand Baningime all the chance in the world to get into the first team, because we are powder puff there now.

  81. Ffs……this tread again. My 9 year old son said "when are you lot going to want your manager sacking this season?" to which my missus replied "2 games in". So predictable. So fickle. :coffee:
  82. Worst thing a manger cam do after getting beat like that is come out and say we didn’t deserve to get beat

    We were awful, he should have said we were awful but could have gotten something if we took our chances

    Honestly never take any notices of managers interviews after a game.

  83. With Gbamin seemingly being out for a while, to me it`s crucial that we get Delph on the pitch and we keep him fit.

    We haven`t got a leader in the middle of the park and haven`t had one since Barry left and Deplh should bring that to the team.

    If we have to persist with our current midfield we`re gonna struggle.

    …absolutely agree, Delph needs to come in to provide some much needed energy and attitude.

  84. Worst thing a manger cam do after getting beat like that is come out and say we didn’t deserve to get beat

    We were awful, he should have said we were awful but could have gotten something if we took our chances

  85. ….Gueye is certainly different gravy to Schneiderlin, but we don’t necessarily need a Gueye clone to play alongside Gomes. I’m sure Gbamin has been brought in because Silva/Brands want to play in a different way.

    Schneiderlin isn’t a poor player (pass behind the back four in the 1st half was exquisite), he just has a poor attitude. Delph would’ve made a difference, I just hope he’s not a sick note.

    With Gbamin seemingly being out for a while, to me it`s crucial that we get Delph on the pitch and we keep him fit.

    We haven`t got a leader in the middle of the park and haven`t had one since Barry left and Deplh should bring that to the team.

    If we have to persist with our current midfield we`re gonna struggle.

  86. Unfortunately you need a player like Gueye, to give Gomes the freedom to roam, as he covers every blade of grass behind him.

    Watching it last night, it looks like Gomes ( as badly as he played ) had been told not to advance too far forward, which I`m guessing is because Silva knows that Schneiderlin isn`t capable of doing Gueyes old roll.

    We desperately need Delph to be fit, as with our current midfield we`re gonna get ripped to shreds by anyone with pace in their team.

    Villa are no better than a Sean Dyche Burnley team and played in a similar fashion, fouling, going down all the time, hoofing the ball etc, but we looked exposed every time they counter attacked.

    In saying that, if Co Co the clown Lewin would`ve scored that sitter, I`m pretty it would`ve been a different game.

    Against a top side I’d agree with him being a bit worried leaving Schneiderlin alone, against villas and palaces I’d have hoped he’d be a bit more adventurous. They tried to bypass our midfield all game, hoofing it to Wesley. We could have easily ran away with that if we played further forward.

    Playing that conservative against a dreadful side was an abhorrent approach, and the fact no changes were made at halftime really pissed me off.

    But yeah Delph will hopefully help in that scenario, and praying to god I never see Eton Dom and the Icelandic myth anywhere near that starting lineup again.

  87. Unfortunately you need a player like Gueye, to give Gomes the freedom to roam, as he covers every blade of grass behind him.

    Watching it last night, it looks like Gomes ( as badly as he played ) had been told not to advance too far forward, which I`m guessing is because Silva knows that Schneiderlin isn`t capable of doing Gueyes old roll.

    We desperately need Delph to be fit, as with our current midfield we`re gonna get ripped to shreds by anyone with pace in their team.

    Villa are no better than a Sean Dyche Burnley team and played in a similar fashion, fouling, going down all the time, hoofing the ball etc, but we looked exposed every time they counter attacked.

    In saying that, if Co Co the clown Lewin would`ve scored that sitter, I`m pretty it would`ve been a different game.

    ….Gueye is certainly different gravy to Schneiderlin, but we don’t necessarily need a Gueye clone to play alongside Gomes. I’m sure Gbamin has been brought in because Silva/Brands want to play in a different way.

    Schneiderlin isn’t a poor player (pass behind the back four in the 1st half was exquisite), he just has a poor attitude. Delph would’ve made a difference, I just hope he’s not a sick note.

  88. "This is the side he’s shaped"

    Well it isnt is it:

    Pickford
    Keane
    Coleman
    Schneiderlin
    Sigurdsson
    DCL

    = 6 players he hasnt signed.

    Additionally the 3 players he said he wanted in the summer (DM/CM + RF + CB) werent signed.

    Not really sure what youre on about tbh…and as for money spent its going to be breakeven by the end of the window.

    Not hard really to see really is it? He shapes the tactics, picks the team (and continues to pick players out of form),and he has spent a lot of money no matter what anyone says, I don’t care what he’s recouped for selling dross.

    Be great if a new manager could come in and get rid of everyone and start again, but this is real life not FIFA or Football Manager.

  89. Villa were terrible mate, any team with movement would have battered them last night. I know Gomes was massively off the pace, but he’s positioned next to Schneiderlin all game, then there’s a massive void to the front 4. Villa just sat in that block; there was a period when he moved about 15 yards in front of him and we started to create space because it pulled their players out of the block

    But that happened to late, it’s the same reason why we struggled to break palace down. His tactics are wrong for those types of games, he should give Gomes the freedom to roam further forward

    It wasn’t a scrappy game, it was an awful performance by us

    Unfortunately you need a player like Gueye, to give Gomes the freedom to roam, as he covers every blade of grass behind him.

    Watching it last night, it looked like Gomes ( as badly as he played ) had been told not to advance too far forward, which I`m guessing is because Silva knows that Schneiderlin isn`t capable of doing Gueyes old roll.

    We desperately need Delph to be fit, as with our current midfield we`re gonna get ripped to shreds by anyone with pace in their team.

    Villa are no better than a Sean Dyche Burnley team and played in a similar fashion, fouling, going down all the time, hoofing the ball etc, but we looked exposed every time they counter attacked.

    In saying that, if Co Co the clown Lewin would`ve scored that sitter, I`m pretty it would`ve been a different game.

  90. I think the issue stems from the back. Neither Mina nor Keane are particularly fast on the turn so we need to sit deeper than last season…

    Then of course Schneiderlin is just heartless and Gomes (as you mention) was just dreadful.

    If we had more athleticism in Central Defence + Gbamin as Defensive Midfielder then we could have pushed far higher up the pitch…

    By giving Gomes a license to roam forward weve then got Schneiderlin sitting and personally i think thats suicide.

    There were 3 chances which we should have scored and thats taking into account that the starting 11 were all atrocious aside from Mina.

    Personally id have taken a draw before the game…id take a draw for any away game in the league.

    But Zat it’s been the same from the start of the season, and in times last season. The play is predictable and he needs to address it.

    You can park buses in the gaps between defence and midfield, and midfield and attack. Teams are just sitting in those holes, all the play goes out wide and we get swamped. We’ve created next to nothing in 3 games

    I wouldn’t have taken a draw because they’re an awful side, we should be putting that to bed 2/3-0 easily.

    But our chronic lack of off the ball movement is killing us, we lack serious options going forward because of the setup

  91. Thing is Marco, after all the new faces, apparently better quality, we aren’t going any further forward.

    We played decent for 20 mins and looked in control, but after that it just went back to the kind of performances we thought were behind us.

    These new players better get fit sharpish and start making a difference, or this guy is toast.

  92. At least we won the possession eh?

    All those sideways and backwards passes between the centre half’s and midfield will add up come the end of the season.

    No excuses for him this season, this is the side he’s shaped. If he hasn’t improved on last years performance in the league and cups with the money spent, he should go.

    "This is the side he’s shaped"

    Well it isnt is it:

    Pickford
    Keane
    Coleman
    Schneiderlin
    Sigurdsson
    DCL

    = 6 players he hasnt signed.

    Additionally the 3 players he said he wanted in the summer (DM/CM + RF + CB) werent signed.

    Not really sure what youre on about tbh…and as for money spent its going to be breakeven by the end of the window.

  93. You telling me it’s not the managers fault if DCL and Walcott miss sitters? Are you insane? Walcott has been missing sitters all last season as has domestos Calvert-lewin. He picked Walcott for about 3 months straight last year despite him being dog turd and has decided to make domestos the. Umber 9 and pick him and play a system that results in no goals for our main striker in nearly half a season of football of him starting games. I get it if siggy misses a pen , richy fluffs a one on one etc and Silva cannot be held responsible but picking two players that have the record them to have of missing sitters and saying there’s nothing he can do about it is wrong, he can not pick them

    DCL or Tosun who is too static and would have easily been handled by Mings.

    An off form / tired Richarlison or Walcott who adds pace?

    Not sure what other options Silva could have used seeing as both Kean and Iwobi are lacking match fitness…

    We offered up the same dirge against Palace and Watford though. And there’s a case to be made that we were fortunate to get 4 points out of them.

    The performance last night warranted a defeat. Silva got it all wrong for me and i’ve no idea what he’s talking about.

    No idea why Kean isn’t starting. No idea why DCL is anywhere near that starting line up. I’d genuinely rather start Tosun.

    Kean isnt fully fit…he looked shattered after comimg on as a sub vs Watford so its unlilely he would last more than 30mins against Villa.

    DCL at least gave their defenders something to think about with his movement and knockdowns while Tosun is just a lamppost and really we should be trying to find a buyer for him.

    Villa were terrible mate, any team with movement would have battered them last night. I know Gomes was massively off the pace, but he’s positioned next to Schneiderlin all game, then there’s a massive void to the front 4. Villa just sat in that block; there was a period when he moved about 15 yards in front of him and we started to create space because it pulled their players out of the block

    But that happened to late, it’s the same reason why we struggled to break palace down. His tactics are wrong for those types of games, he should give Gomes the freedom to roam further forward

    It wasn’t a scrappy game, it was an awful performance by us

    I think the issue stems from the back. Neither Mina nor Keane are particularly fast on the turn so we need to sit deeper than last season…

    Then of course Schneiderlin is just heartless and Gomes (as you mention) was just dreadful.

    If we had more athleticism in Central Defence + Gbamin as Defensive Midfielder then we could have pushed far higher up the pitch…

    By giving Gomes a license to roam forward weve then got Schneiderlin sitting and personally i think thats suicide.

    There were 3 chances which we should have scored and thats taking into account that the starting 11 were all atrocious aside from Mina.

    Personally id have taken a draw before the game…id take a draw for any away game in the league.

  94. At least we won the possession eh?

    All those sideways and backwards passes between the centre half’s and midfield will add up come the end of the season.

    No excuses for him this season, this is the side he’s shaped. If he hasn’t improved on last years performance in the league and cups with the money spent, he should go.

  95. We aren’t getting on the managers back already are we, I can’t keep up with modern football angst
  96. We have this weird aversion to playing a ball into the box. Seems we have to wait for them to get everyone back before we play it in.
  97. It just seeemed to me like an away game which we were on top on but one of those games where we need to grind out a result.

    Every top side has them and comes away with a draw or a win, Chelsea under Mourinho.

    What we lacked i thought was all in midfield, Schneiderlin / Gylfi / Gomes were all terrible.

    If DCL/Iwobi/Walcott had scored 1 goal then i think we would have gone on to win but it was a scrappy game and we couldnt do it.

    Villa were terrible mate, any team with movement would have battered them last night. I know Gomes was massively off the pace, but he’s positioned next to Schneiderlin all game, then there’s a massive void to the front 4. Villa just sat in that block; there was a period when he moved about 15 yards in front of him and we started to create space because it pulled their players out of the block

    But that happened to late, it’s the same reason why we struggled to break palace down. His tactics are wrong for those types of games, he should give Gomes the freedom to roam further forward

    It wasn’t a scrappy game, it was an awful performance by us

  98. It just seeemed to me like an away game which we were on top on but one of those games where we need to grind out a result.

    Every top side has them

    We offered up the same dirge against Palace and Watford though. And there’s a case to be made that we were fortunate to get 4 points out of them.

    The performance last night warranted a defeat. Silva got it all wrong for me and i’ve no idea what he’s talking about.

    No idea why Kean isn’t starting. No idea why DCL is anywhere near that starting line up. I’d genuinely rather start Tosun.

  99. Or look at the posession + shots and wonder wtf the players were doing…

    Dcl + iwobi + Walcott could have scored and we would have had 3 goals.

    Its not the managers fault the players miss sitters.

    Alot of chances missed after 3 games already.

    You telling me it’s not the managers fault if DCL and Walcott miss sitters? Are you insane? Walcott has been missing sitters all last season as has domestos Calvert-lewin. He picked Walcott for about 3 months straight last year despite him being dog turd and has decided to make domestos the. Umber 9 and pick him and play a system that results in no goals for our main striker in nearly half a season of football of him starting games. I get it if siggy misses a pen , richy fluffs a one on one etc and Silva cannot be held responsible but picking two players that have the record them to have of missing sitters and saying there’s nothing he can do about it is wrong, he can not pick them

  100. It could be against City, Liverpool and Spurs in a row for all I care. Don’t "brag" about how you dominated a match when you had ONE shot on goal and have scored only 1 goal in 270 minutes of professional football.

    I get your point, I just still don’t get how a manager on the losing side can say "we didn’t deserve it" with 1 shot on goal.

    He’s trying to make the performance sound better than it was. Martinez did it all of the time I am disappointed he would do that. That being said yes we could have scored three goals if the finishing was better but we lacked control of the midfield against Villa who are limited that’s the worrying thing.

  101. It’s not just that game, Watford hit the post and welbeck missed a sitter aswell.

    The loss of gueye has been huge, the better teams will exploit that. How easily did villa get into the final third yesterday

    Not very easily at all. They were sitting back and defending most of the night. Trying to play off the counter. That’s what they do.

  102. We didn’t play great but we did more than enough to win that game, 2 guilt edge chances and hit the post, numerous other spurned opportunities. DCL wouldn’t get a game at any other team in the league, Sig was his usual anonymous self, a number 10 who doesn’t show for the ball and Gomes must be carrying that injury from the palace game to put out that performance but at least he didn’t hide and always showed for the ball
  103. Who’s available?

    That’s 3 woeful performances. Last night was beyond unacceptable. The players don’t appear to be playing for him. Gomes looked like he didn’t want to be there.
    He needs to go.

  104. Having 65% of the ball means nothing when we just pass it around in front of the opposition and get nowhere near the goal. As soon as Villa starting putting 10 behind the ball after half time we couldnt break them down
  105. I don’t think 1 goal makes Villa open up. This team struggles creating opportunities. I could be mistaken, I couldn’t give my undivided attention since I was at work, but wasn’t Walcott’s miss in like the 80th minute?

    Team scored 1 goal in like 260 minutes to that point. You expect 2 in 10 minutes? They haven’t showed that in my opinion.

    I was being optimistic but i think its all about confidence. Lacklustre performances like last nights game can turn on their heads with a goal.

    I think we need to beat Wolves + Bournemouth + Sheff Utd now to get a lot of confidence before the Man City game.

    The problem we now have is with Schneiderlin, Gomes and Sigurdsson in midfield which is totally unbalanced.

    We really need to hope that one or two of our attacking players can click into gear now.

  106. C’mon on Zat, we were terrible. Iwobi’s was half chance, which leaves 2 clear cut chances against a truly awful villa side who’ll go down

    It was embarrassing, stagnant football that should have been changed at halftime. The entire game plan should have scrapped on 45min mark

    It just seeemed to me like an away game which we were on top on but one of those games where we need to grind out a result.

    Every top side has them and comes away with a draw or a win, Chelsea under Mourinho.

    What we lacked i thought was all in midfield, Schneiderlin / Gylfi / Gomes were all terrible.

    If DCL/Iwobi/Walcott had scored 1 goal then i think we would have gone on to win but it was a scrappy game and we couldnt do it.

  107. Against Palace Watford and Villa.

    It could be against City, Liverpool and Spurs in a row for all I care. Don’t "brag" about how you dominated a match when you had ONE shot on goal and have scored only 1 goal in 270 minutes of professional football.

    I get your point, I just still don’t get how a manager on the losing side can say "we didn’t deserve it" with 1 shot on goal.

  108. We’ve scored 1 goal in 3 matches. That’s Martinez-esque. I don’t care how much you "dominate" a match, if you don’t score, you don’t win.
  109. Just because we had the ball doesn’t mean dominated.
    We were woeful in that second half, and could still be playing now and wouldn’t have scored.
    Villa were crap but I don’t begrudge their win.
  110. Oh wow. What part of his thought that chatting wham like that would help! I’m more annoyed with him for spinning that BS then I was for anything he did tonight as manager. I sincerely hope he doesn’t believe that nonsense.
  111. Bloody Hell. Just read Silva’s comments ‘DCLmissed a clear chance to make it 1-1’ & ‘Walcott missed a clear chance’………and he’s at a loss to explain how we lost the game. It’s because you keep picking them, moron! Out of his depth!
  112. Got to hope when Delph is fur, he offers what we’re missing next to Gomes. I’d give one of my nuts for Arteta

    You mean replaces Gomes, correct? Because part of the problem today was that we literally had no one to replace Gomes who was having a VERY poor game even for him.

  113. A performance like that wouldn’t dominate the Aston Villa under 12s.

    Shades of Roberto post-match gibberish unfortunately.

  114. We didn’t we had the ball but did very little with it passing side to side and not taking chances.
  115. Got to hope when Delph is fur, he offers what we’re missing next to Gomes. I’d give one of my nuts for Arteta
  116. We dominated until they scored, then our heads fell off. Its all a confidence thing, and all it will take is a lucky game and we’ll click. The main problem I’m concerned with, is what we aimed to sort over summer, and that us recruit players to improve our effectiveness in the final third, but after the last three games, that and also our inability to score are still our biggest issues. It’s going to go down as another ‘transition’ season. Maybe get 8th, and go again next year. Rinse and repeat until we die
  117. Dominiated the game is a misleading statement.

    Yes we had more of the ball but Villa were 1-0 up and were happy for us to have possession as we were just passing it around the back 4 and side to side, then they tried to pick us off as we got near their box. Its not as if it was wave after wave of attacks with loads of chances created.

    Exactly. It was not City steamrolling a parked bus after falling behind. It was Everton ‘steamrolling’ a parked bus after falling behind.

  118. Or look at the posession + shots and wonder wtf the players were doing…

    Dcl + iwobi + Walcott could have scored and we would have had 3 goals.

    Its not the managers fault the players miss sitters.

    Alot of chances missed after 3 games already.

    C’mon on Zat, we were terrible. Iwobi’s was half chance, which leaves 2 clear cut chances against a truly awful villa side who’ll go down

    It was embarrassing, stagnant football that should have been changed at halftime. The entire game plan should have scrapped on 45min mark

  119. "How we can lose this game"

    Villa 3 shots on target, Everton 1 shot on target. :coffee:

    Or look at the posession + shots and wonder wtf the players were doing…

    Dcl + iwobi + Walcott could have scored and we would have had 3 goals.

    Its not the managers fault the players miss sitters.

    Alot of chances missed after 3 games already.

  120. The 60 minute substitution is one of the things in modern football that really does my head in.

    Shows the manager has no clue and is following trends.

    Yep, if it’s not working in the first half then why not make the changes at half – time.

  121. His job is to get the team to create chances if they don’t want to score them he can’t run on the pitch and place the ball in the net unfortunately.
  122. The 60 minute substitution is one of the things in modern football that really does my head in.

    Shows the manager has no clue and is following trends.

    You knew it was happening. That’s the annoying thing.

    He shouldn’t have taken Bernard off actually, that’s my criticism of him.

  123. Watched a different game, Villa are an awful team and we made them look decent

    Disgraceful performance and disgraceful management from start to finish

  124. Roberto silva

    It is a very Roberto comment. I’d actually respect him more if he admitted it wasn’t a good game. We have to bank our season on never going behind because the game is lost at that point if history with Silva is anything to go by.

  125. This is a Martinez type comment. It doesn’t matter how much possession you have if the team isn’t going to generate chances from it. Our pressing was fine. Our backline played mostly well. The midfield did a respectable job getting the ball forward. But there was nothing in the final third from any of that.
  126. Dont really have too big of a problem with Silva tonight. Changes should’ve been done earlier probably but the fact is that the players miss sitters, not him. We had 3 clear cut chances, one was unlucky and the other 2 were woeful. They took their chances. We didnt.

    Those players who missed were on the field by his choice, neither should of been.

  127. Dont really have too big of a problem with Silva tonight. Changes should’ve been done earlier probably but the fact is that the players miss sitters, not him. We had 3 clear cut chances, one was unlucky and the other 2 were woeful. They took their chances. We didnt.

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