2018/19 Yerry Mina

[aberonn]

 

[FTY]

That too has been very wired

Fabinho been on the Mozam?

 

[Bob Elstone]

Put him in against west ham. Nice home game.

 

[heatmeiser]

These last few pages have cheered me up no end.

Thanks guys x

 

[MikeH72]

My understanding of zonal is that every player has their zone and attacks the ball if it comes into it? So... saying Mina is front post, that’s his zone, and I’m an opposing player that is 6”4 or whatever, I would just run to the zone that baines, Davies etc are defending. Andecent corner taker should be able to work out where Mina is and bypass him surely.

But with man to man you could do exactly the same, and use the attacker that Mina’s marking to make a decoy run to the near post dragging him away, and then deliver the corner over them. Simple isn’t it.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Liverpool spunked 40 mil on Fabinho , not kicked a ball in anger yet....just saying like.

Turns slower than milk apparently.

 

[BlueToff]

That too has been very wired

It hasn't really.

I said to my RS mate when they signed him he - out of all of them - would take the most time to adapt. He's a very good player but the pace of the PL is a huge thing to get used to. There's no rush to lob someone in at the deep end given the strength they have in that position anyway.

 

[boris]

Yeah but it's one new player

It's hardly going to turn us into world beaters overnight is it?

It'd be lovely to get Mina fit and also get him some game time, but if people think him coming in is going to magically make all our defensive woes go away then they are in for a rude awakening I fear

So long as we have the same system in place we're likely going to ship goals, even with two tall lads in there

Mina will improve things the same way a delicious dollop of vanilla ice cream would improve a cow pat. It'd still be a cow pat though

VVD did when he came in......add in we’ll be introducing 3 new defenders plus a new system, it’s a huge change.

My understanding of zonal is that every player has their zone and attacks the ball if it comes into it? So... saying Mina is front post, that’s his zone, and I’m an opposing player that is 6”4 or whatever, I would just run to the zone that baines, Davies etc are defending. Andecent corner taker should be able to work out where Mina is and bypass him surely.

Zonal marking puts your best readers right in the middle of the danger zone so Mina and Zouma will be right where it matters in the middle of the 6 yard box.

The little fellas get placed further out and it’s there job to stop runs.

Mina will never be at the front post. All all clubs that job is always given to strikers who are used to attacking the ball but not so much marking.

Both Tosun and DCL have been responsible for 3 goals betweeen them already this year by not doing there job. Silva actually called DCL out for it after the Bournemouth (I think) game.

 

[anton66]

He'll be a good signing for us in the January transfer window.

 

[havrey0123]

Zones can overlap to help deal with overloading - Venn diagram style. And if an attacking side puts 3 or 4 in one small area it's gonna be hard for them to get a run on the ball without tripping over each other. Also, if the corner isn't perfect you've took 3 or 4 of your most effective target men out of the set-piece in one fell swoop.

Look at England in the WC - That strange line-up they did on attacking corners helped pull man-markers out of position and when the ball was being played they all ran to different areas rather than overloading anywhere. A zonal system would arguably have worked better against it.

There isn't a massive amount of difference in effectiveness between zonal and man. Both systems fall down when the attacker comes up against a defender not doing their job.

In zonal marking, your always losing out as the opposition has a run into the area and can use his momentum to get his head to the ball, in zonal your static until you realise the ball is coming towards you, by which time it's too late.

 

[Brisan123]

It hasn't really.

I said to my RS mate when they signed him he - out of all of them - would take the most time to adapt. He's a very good player but the pace of the PL is a huge thing to get used to. There's no rush to lob someone in at the deep end given the strength they have in that position anyway.

I find that post shocking and more than a little bit disturbing if I’m being perfectly honest.


How anybody could admit on a public forum ( even with the use of a username which affords some anonymity) that they have a RS mate is beyond comprehension lol

 

[d4kyxx]

Isn’t this why United pulled out late on knowing he was out for a couple of months?

 

[blueblue]

Isn’t this why United pulled out late on knowing he was out for a couple of months?

Signing a player on a long term contract means that you hope to get value over the full length of the contract rather than an immediate payback.

The fact that he was coming back from a long World Cup campaign, coming to a new country, new league, new language etc means I think the club may have been happy to give him some time to settle... the injury just forced this to happen.

 

[evertonarntwe]

what's the script then, is he still injured, how long he out etc etc

 

[hktoffee]

But what is one guy going to do?

The system is as much the issue as the players

We used to have short Cb Jags Williams. Mina and Zouma are like 6 ft 3 6 ft 5 so I expect them to head away everything.