Would we have gone down without Allardyce

[Roachey11]

Unsworth would have accumulated enough points to see us safe. Of that I am sure. This is the worst premier league season I can remember.

 

[davids]

Regardless how bad we have been this year, and I know we have been bad. Would we have been relegated? Simple answer is no.

I say this because we have Goodison Park, home of Everton FC. As much as we think our home is quiet, even toxic in some games, I hear my old mates saying it's not like it was against Bayern, Fiorentina, or any other memorable game under the lights.
I agree...but

But, Goodison comes with a health warning for some sides - it causes a lot of teams problems before a ball is kicked. Bournemouth folded, West Ham fell apart after the pen miss, Huddersfield froze, Watford did a miracle of Crystanbul, Swansea did the usual at Goodison. Picked up cheap points elsewhere too at home - and took some beatings - Arsenal & Spurs were embarrassing- Utd & Chelsea not what we are about either. I’m

We used to give the top six a right go, 60 grand used to do keepy ups, the Belgian kerb played on the wing to mix it up, the kidda with the Pot Noodle Barnet did one two’s before slotting in the Geladys, the forgotten one celebrated before slotting into an empty net. Goodison is one hard place to come too....at times we forget this and offer up this advantage too easily.

Koeman with his Barcelona badges on Bentley number plates showed our investment in his ability was misplaced. He was as poor the previous year but a late run post watford saved his fat head. I blame him for so much this year, others take a slice, but that Blonde Beaut was seriously bad. He had to go. But we had no plan B. Koeman should have gone way before Arsenal, Chelsea away was bad, Spurs at home criminal, Utd away shambolic. Can’t remember but Brighton away was unfair on them for the point, not forgetting the embarrassing effort in Europe that saw us embarrassed in Italy & France. Koeman’s reign is too easily overlooked because of gravy & his wardrobe shaped head, but he quickly dismantled any coherent football we once had.

So, would we have been relegated? Absolutely not. Having no plan post Moonhead was ridiculous, felt for Unsworth - players knew he wasn’t long term - then we got the Smirking Bloater. It is what it is. He’ll go.

Early doors we were a mess, Spurs destroyed us, Arsenal played as bad an everton team I’ve seen in a long time, Burnley did a number on us. The rot was there with Moonhead, he had no interest in Everton. Players saw that...Board then acted. Poor choice in Gravy but whoever managed us, would have seen us safe. Each to their own I reckon on this!

Should have gone with Pardew then he'd have been far cheaper.

 

[toffeejack]

no, i know we were terrible but we were playing without a striker and missing a hell of a lot of players in the first half the season, we were always going to stay up and stay up comfortably when we had players like coleman and baines come back as well buying an attacker or two, like we were always going to do. There was way too much cry arsing on here and it was really embarassing to see from fellow evertionians imo, thought we should have all known better.

 

[toffeejack]

Unsworth would have accumulated enough points to see us safe. Of that I am sure. This is the worst premier league season I can remember.

exactly my mate was saying this city team is the second best team he's ever seen or some crap like that. I told him that was BS, especially as Burnley may finish 5th this season, city have been good but it's been a season where chelsea, arsenal and ourselves have all massively under-performed which has reduced the quality so much.

 

[Efctheblue123]

I reckon we’d have gone

 

[degsy]

Probably not, but after panicing over Koeman, Moshiri, rightly or wrongly, wasn't going to risk it...not that there were too many real candidates after the Silva stuff up.

Moshiri could do worse than bring in Wenger at technical consultant on how to run a football club...instead of listening to jim white or whoever it is that are filling his head with shight

 

[Harryflashman]

I think without a new manager , be that Sam or somebody else , to settle the ship we were in real danger of going .

 

[wellillwill]

No, but it would have been closer.

 

[AsiaAsia82]

Seamus saved us, made at least half a dozen players realise what it's like to be a professional footballer playing for Everton.

 

[Big_nev]

There was a point against Southampton were I thought ''we could genuinely be in trouble here'' and I think it frightened a lot of fans and even the club. Don't think Allardyce was needed as any half decent manager would of gotten enough points to stay up considering some of the gash teams in this league.

 

[McMagic]

Seamus saved us, made at least half a dozen players realise what it's like to be a professional footballer playing for Everton.

Yes of course you are quite right! But don't you think that we are missing Tim Howard and Tony Hibbert.

 

[Norwegian Cow]

..I think we might have gone down had we not changed. Southampton away was as bad as it gets and i’m of the opinion that the win against West Ham at Home was because of Allardyce sitting in the stands. I fear Unsworth had lost it, that moment Joe Royle left his seat in the stand to offer advice at Southampton is an abiding memory.

The question, however, is whether we would have gone down without Allardyce and the answer depends on who else came in. Moshiri might say the Allardyce appointment was a success because we didn’t go down.

Spot on. If we didn't get a new manager in we could have gone down, however I don't think Sam was the only man that could save us. But he was a safe choice.

 

[diggerdestroyer]

Needed to have an option of "would be right in the mix".The idea of we would have got the points from somewhere doesnt add up. We were a mess. Totally lacking of anything. There was a big possibility we would be still down around there.

Its not that we are much better now but he did add some shape to the team but the important point is we didnt get worse.

He deserves credit for getting us to safety. So thank you sam. Your job is done. Your football is some of the worsy ive seen.Bye.

 

[jonnyboy316]

It was looking bleak after the Saints game. Very bleak

 

[Groucho]

Merson (LOL) claims Allardyce saved us from relegation, I don’t doubt it factually but do you agree if he wasn’t employed we’d have gone down?

I think Unsworth would done the same job, in hindsight.