Current Affairs World War 3

[Lapeno77]

 

[magicjuan]

I received Turchin's book for Christmas. It's quite dry and took me a while but it's hard not to look back through history and see the cycles pretty much everywhere.

His theory can pretty much be summed up in 3 "laws":

1 - Stable societies with growing economies will see inequality grow as societal elites (defined as those with some measure of influence over others) use that power & influence to hoover up eve greater percentages of the resources available

2 - As the numbers in poverty grow due to the worsening inequality, larger sections of the population become desparate for change and are able to be mobilised for causes

3 - With more cash floating around at the top, too many elites are vying for the same amount of potential influence over society (either political or financial power). This leads to conflict amongst elites which can spill over into violence, using the mobilised masses defined in point 2

Turchin posits this is a fundamental process of human societies and only the rate it which it happens varies, based on factors such as polygamy vs monogamy. He does cite several examples of societies that were able to delay their 'destabilisation periods' - Britain in the 19th century is one such, as it was able to send surplus elites out to run or pillage the Empire. 19th century Russia too, which freed the serfs - this then led to political destabilisation in the following decades, several revolutions, and eventually the USSR.

Really though, the only way to arrest the cycle is for the elite class to agree en masse (via legislation & regulation) to not worsen inequality, as seen in the US from the 1930s to the 1970s. When these things were repealed in the 70s the cycle resumed and is now at 'breaking point'.

It's sombre stuff and globalisation has probably synchronised all our cycles to that of our nearest & most influential world power.

Every 'empire' eventually kills itself. Marx said capitalism would eventually eat itself.
By its own definition and 'raison d'etre', global and unfettered capitalism can only have one winner via competition, which if you play that in the same context as noughts and crosses is computerised in the film 'War Games' shows the futility of unfettered competition as so many are sacrificed for what, after all, is just a pyrrhic victory as everything is wiped out for an ego.
I think we're living through the point of critical mass, every single aspect of life now is a tinderbox and so enmeshed the tiniest of sparks takes it all out.

 

[Goat]

Every 'empire' eventually kills itself. Marx said capitalism would eventually eat itself.
By its own definition and 'raison d'etre', global and unfettered capitalism can only have one winner via competition, which if you play that in the same context as noughts and crosses is computerised in the film 'War Games' shows the futility of unfettered competition as so many are sacrificed for what, after all, is just a pyrrhic victory as everything is wiped out for an ego.
I think we're living through the point of critical mass, every single aspect of life now is a tinderbox and so enmeshed the tiniest of sparks takes it all out.

Human history is littered with wars.

But only in this era are there weapons of mass destruction and everybody has them.

 

[Mr. White]

But only in this era are there weapons of mass destruction and everybody has them.

Not everybody has them. For countries that do, they are an effective defense. The UK, USA, and allies will attack countries that can't fight back. They show restraint against countries that can fight back.

 

[Goat]

Not everybody has them. For counties that do, they are an effective defense. The UK, USA, and allies will attack countries that can't fight back. They show restraint against countries that can fight back.

Mate these Houthi fellas are firing supersonic missiles at us, they live in a cave.

Everybody has them or access to them.

 

[Mr. White]

Mate these Houthi fellas are firing supersonic missiles at us, they live in a cave.

Everybody has them or access to them.

I need more time to respond to this...

I need to Google 'How to launch supersonic missiles from caves in Yemen" Give me a week or so... ;-)

 

[Rita_Poon]

take a little longer....

 

[Mr. White]

Are you suggesting we have direct democracy during an urgent time of crises? How does that work, exactly?

 

[Mr. White]

take a little longer....

Too late, you've been nuked already.

 

[Goat]

I need more time to respond to this...

I need to Google 'How to launch supersonic missiles from caves in Yemen" Give me a week or so... ;-)

It took me 30seconds.

 

[IrishBlue2022]

I need more time to respond to this...

I need to Google 'How to launch supersonic missiles from caves in Yemen" Give me a week or so... ;-)

You need to read the instructions on a pot noodle to figure out how to make one. I'll give you a year atleast.

I only like Chicken & Mushroom. I just follow the instructions, then stir in some grated cheddar cheese.

 

[Mr. White]

It took me 30seconds.

I've just searched for product code 10801101. It seems to be a hexagon socket set for VW/Audi cars.

This looks like an expensive way to smuggle car tools into Europe...

 

[Goat]

I've just searched for product code 10801101. It seems to be a hexagon socket set for VW/Audi cars.

This looks like an expensive way to smuggle car tools into Europe...

Fateh-110 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Here you go mate.

 

[Baines' left foot]

I've just searched for product code 10801101. It seems to be a hexagon socket set for VW/Audi cars.

This looks like an expensive way to smuggle car tools into Europe...

The old ‘talk garbage and deflect’ when proven to be wrong tactic, eh.

It’s the Tory way.

 

[Mrbluenose]

At this point I'm fairly confident that @bicycleheader does more than actual posts

Proper little weirdo.

What do you do away from the forum fella when people upset you?

Give them a behind their backs?