Billy Bingham
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Incredible thread. Some of you must have very short memories. End of Martinez was DIRE. Allow me to remind you of a couple games.
Neither are the best at anything. Martinez tried too hard to attack while utterly failing to defend while Allardyce is pretty much the opposite. I don't think anyone wanted Allardyce but you have to remember we were too damn close to the drop zone and we needed to be stablised. He's not going to give us any silverware, but he's eliminated fears of relegation (for now). If we had Martinez now, we'd be shoulder to shoulder with Swansea looking up cheap hotels in London for Brentford away instead of Arsenal, Chelsea, etc.
Neither are the best at anything. Martinez tried too hard to attack while utterly failing to defend while Allardyce is pretty much the opposite. I don't think anyone wanted Allardyce but you have to remember we were too damn close to the drop zone and we needed to be stablised. He's not going to give us any silverware, but he's eliminated fears of relegation (for now). If we had Martinez now, we'd be shoulder to shoulder with Swansea looking up cheap hotels in London for Brentford away instead of Arsenal, Chelsea, etc.
Woolly Blue
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No-one really cares what you think mate, but well in for basically starting a carefully concealed anti-Allardyce thread
Nothing wrong with being anti-Allardyce by the way, but it can easily be perceived as being a "look at me, aren't I important" kind of thing, and you're plainly a much nicer person than @Adversus, who used to post here but eventually just got on everyones man-mammaries, so it'd be a shame if you got lumped in with that sort of person.
See above.
edit : ... and you've given dave the opportunity to bore the pants off everyone with his faux Martinez love-in act !!
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lancs blue
Player Valuation: £35m
Martinez was a crackin manager for the opposition. Couldn't set a team up defensively if he tried. As for the others koeman etc not much improvement. Moshers needs to practice his smooth talking if we're ever going to get a top notch boss. Results on pitch will only attract the likes of Pulis etc
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
We've had one season since the 80s that's been a success: that ended with a cup win.
We've had one season since the 80s when we've looked a top class side capable of playing other teams off the pitch: 2013/14.
The rest of it has been a wasteland of hoof and semi-hoof. A pitiful return from all concerned.
We've had one season since the 80s when we've looked a top class side capable of playing other teams off the pitch: 2013/14.
The rest of it has been a wasteland of hoof and semi-hoof. A pitiful return from all concerned.
artetas_biggest_fan
Player Valuation: £6m
Billy "the bigot" Bingham was the worst ever. Crap manager and a cretin to boot.
Ok. Gordon Lee , then
No-one really cares what you think mate, but well in for basically starting a carefully concealed anti-Allardyce thread
Nothing wrong with being anti-Allardyce by the way, but it can easily be perceived as being a "look at me, aren't I important" kind of thing, and you're plainly a much nicer person than @Adversus, who used to post here but eventually just got on everyones man-mammaries, so it'd be a shame if you got lumped in with that sort of person.
See above.
edit : ... and you've given dave the opportunity to bore the pants off everyone with his faux Martinez love-in act !!
Oh I'm anti Allardyce, don't think that's any secret.
Football is a passionate game and it brings out the best and the worst in us. I didn't feel we needed him at the time, I still don't feel we need him or that he deserves to be our manager. Others with more knowledge on the game than me are adamant he was 100% necessary. I don't agree but that's fair enough.
I just hope to goodness there are no plans to let him manage us next season, and more importantly plans to get us back to being a football team again, and one who actually looks to win. If the club want a stats geek for some advice then they are free to give me a bell lol
Cork Evertonian
Player Valuation: £50m
We were unlucky not to win the league with him in 1974/1975.
Midnitemike
Player Valuation: £1m
50% clearly have shorter memories than goldfish
Cork Evertonian
Player Valuation: £50m
This post is so depressingly true.
He didn't do all that well in his first season.
In fact it was pretty meh.
The autumn slump was followed by the late season mini collapse.
And we went out of both Cups at the first hurdle.
We moved a few places up the table but big whoop.....we were no better than we ought to have been.
TraffordBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35624290
Liverpool 4 - 0 Everton
Shots - LFC 37, EFC 3.
Shots on target - LFC 13, EFC 0.
Things were great under Martinez.
Liverpool 4 - 0 Everton
Shots - LFC 37, EFC 3.
Shots on target - LFC 13, EFC 0.
Things were great under Martinez.
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