What is the problem with this team?

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Silva and Brands need time to clean up the mess created by Martinez, Koeman and to a very small degree Allardyce. Oh and Steve Walsh the fraud has set us back 5 years.

Squad is old, Slow and overpaid.

Said at the start of season I'd only care if we kept Pickford and Coleman.

Opinion has only been reinforced

Patience needed AGAIN
I agree
The only thing that worries me if we have enough time before we could get relegated
 
We need a left back, two centre backs, a mobile centre midfielder who can carry the ball forward, we also need another striker who can be more dynamic than Tosun.

Its only pre season but I'm very worried about how bad we look, my biggest fear of not letting Big Sam bore his way to 7th was our defence will start to ship an alarming amount of goals again.
 
We need a left back, two centre backs, a mobile centre midfielder who can carry the ball forward, we also need another striker who can be more dynamic than Tosun.

Its only pre season but I'm very worried about how bad we look, my biggest fear of not letting Big Sam bore his way to 7th was our defence will start to ship an alarming amount of goals again.
I'd be fine with the 2 CBs, LB, and CM. I don't think Tosun is awesome, but if we can only afford 4 of the 5, I think it's worth giving him a shot.
 
I'll give JP benefit of the doubt for now after his WC and modern footie and all that...still needs to convince me though. A couple of CB's...a dominant CM with a side kick and a no non sense CF battering ram.
 
I'd be fine with the 2 CBs, LB, and CM. I don't think Tosun is awesome, but if we can only afford 4 of the 5, I think it's worth giving him a shot.
I like Tosun, but we need our CF to be able get around the pitch more, we cant afford to have a striker who is mainly a fox in the box, our team isnt good enough currently.

Our defence is also not good enough to play such a high pressing line, If we dont get two new centre backs in I hope we dont carry on defending like that. Keane and Jags are way to limited for that.
 
I think a lack of real competition for places at the back has been hugely detrimental for us and our 'old guard'. They (Baines and Jags mostly) have had nobody to compete with and they've let themselves slip. In part down to the academy risers who have been nothing short of shocking.

What good defender have we had since 2012-13, when Jags and Distin were solid? Stones? Even his defending back then was suspect. Absolutely nobody since then has even had a run of good performances. Williams came in, decent signing on paper, same with Keane, and between them have become incredibly complacent. I wouldn't be surprised if they're fully aware of how bad the others are so even if they have a stinker, they know they won't be kept out for long.

They all need binning off, except for perhaps Coleman, Kenny and Holgate, and a full new defence of at least 3 decent CBs is needed if we're ever going to think about pushing the top 6 spots. As it stands, I'd be very surprised if we finished in the top 15 next season.
 
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I like Tosun, but we need our CF to be able get around the pitch more, we cant afford to have a striker who is mainly a fox in the box, our team isnt good enough currently.

Our defence is also not good enough to play such a high pressing line, If we dont get two new centre backs in I hope we dont carry on defending like that. Keane and Jags are way to limited for that.
Again, we don't high press and don't play a high line, so that's not the issue. The issue is they can't defend in space in any situation.

The issue with replacing Tosun is it would be cost prohibitive. To get someone considerably better would be ludicrously expensive.
 
No leader or captain

Jagelka and Baines are done

Brexit means Brexit

Keane isn't played in his preferred position (right side centre back) plus he is out of form.

What's the point playing TWO defensive midfielders if they don't do they're only job.

JFK wasn't a conspiracy but boss shots

The like for like from the bench options are at best Championship level and worse League One.

Niasse is our best striker.

We think Holgate, Lookman and Besic will change everything

Jet fuel cannot burn through steel

If Pre-Season is only for fitness then we are not matchfit
 
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