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[Moomin]

@ForeverBlue92 pays for sex with 16 year old prostitutes.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

@ForeverBlue92 pays for sex with 16 year old prostitutes.

Skint mate unfortunately.

Cost of living and all that.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Skint

Morally?

 

[PhilM]

Black Lives either matter or they dont mate. You cant pick and choose which lives being murdered deserve statues and protests for and which dont.

I wont go off topic any further but those protesters are shills and jumped on a bandwagon in no different a way than the ones in the video on this very thread that ya'll vilvfying for causing criminal damage, attacking police officers etc.

Well, yes you can. I'm not going to ignore the figures involved in black vs. black killings, but rather discuss the potential reasons why they occur.

If you look at the Federal Govts. own reports, people of colour within the US are at the lowest in terms of median and mean wealth. This links to poverty rates.



Something like 7% of non-white Hispanics in the US are classed as below the poverty line, whereas over 18% of black US citizens are below the line.

Such a disparity is known to have an impact on crime rates, which comes back to your figures. That's excusing individual people, but it's a societal issue.

When you're facing such a disparity in wealth and living conditions, before even talking about education, the likelihood of being involved in crime increases.

We could also talk about drug use being a consequence of all the above, therefore the participation in crime is a direct result of the inequalities they face.

Nobody is hiding or ignoring the above, but rather BLM aims to tackle the root cause, which is quite evidently racial inequality within the US.

But let's get back to the elephant in the room: we're talking about the deaths of unarmed citizens. Why is an unarmed black person eight more times likely to die?

It's one word - racism. That can be attributed to the person who is doing the killing, and they're bloody right to protest against that injustice!

As Dr King himself said... "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin...

.... but by their content of their character." Anyone trying to deflect from what is a rightful cause raises eyebrows, in my humble opinion.

 

[verreauxi]

In fact in the space of last year more black on black killings were recorded than of the entirely of recorded lynchings and mob killings in slave times by racist whites (look it up).

I am trying to look it up, but can't find it. Can you point me to your source?

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Well, yes you can. I'm not going to ignore the figures involved in black vs. black killings, but rather discuss the potential reasons why they occur.

If you look at the Federal Govts. own reports, people of colour within the US are at the lowest in terms of median and mean wealth. This links to poverty rates.

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Something like 7% of non-white Hispanics in the US are classed as below the poverty line, whereas over 18% of black US citizens are below the line.

Such a disparity is known to have an impact on crime rates, which comes back to your figures. That's excusing individual people, but it's a societal issue.

When you're facing such a disparity in wealth and living conditions, before even talking about education, the likelihood of being involved in crime increases.

We could also talk about drug use being a consequence of all the above, therefore the participation in crime is a direct result of the inequalities they face.

Nobody is hiding or ignoring the above, but rather BLM aims to tackle the root cause, which is quite evidently racial inequality within the US.

But let's get back to the elephant in the room: we're talking about the deaths of unarmed citizens. Why is an unarmed black person eight more times likely to die?

It's one word - racism. That can be attributed to the person who is doing the killing, and they're bloody right to protest against that injustice!

Anyone trying to deflect from what is a rightful cause raises eyebrows, in my humble opinion.

I agree with a lot of that post mate - but answer me this:

Why wont the poor kid murdered by the 5 policer officers get a statue, why wasn't there global protests and BLM activists toppling statues and burning down innocent peoples businesses ?

We know the answer to that and its down to skin colour not because of a black person losing their life.

People pick and choose when to make something about race and it dissapoints me that society only cares to push hot agendas than actually trying to change things for the better.

 

[coollino]

I am trying to look it up, but can't find it. Can you point me to your source?

Infowars.com

 

[coollino]

I agree with a lot of that post mate - but answer me this:

Why wont the poor kid murdered by the 5 policer officers get a statue, why wasn't there global protests and BLM activists toppling statues and burning down innocent peoples businesses ?

We know the answer to that and its down to skin colour.

People pick and choose when to make something about race and it dissapoints me that society only cares to push hot agendas than actually trying to change things for the better.

Would you say the UK mainstream media are pro people of colour?

 

[PhilM]

I agree with a lot of that post mate - but answer me this:

Why wont the poor kid murdered by the 5 policer officers get a statue, why wasn't there global protests and BLM activists toppling statues and burning down innocent peoples businesses ?

We know the answer to that and its down to skin colour.

People pick and choose when to make something about race and it dissapoints me that society only cares to push hot agendas than actually trying to change things for the better.

Because the colour of his skin wasn't an issue in his death. It's a different matter, surely?

Like I mentioned above, you can protest about one thing and this does not equate to ignoring or minimising the other. That case is to do with police brutality.

And people should protest about that particular case.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Because the colour of his skin wasn't an issue in his death. It's a different matter, surely?

Like I mentioned above, you can protest about one thing and this does not equate to ignoring or minimising the other. That case is to do with police brutality.

And people should protest about that particular case.

Is there any proof that the officer who killed George Floyd did it purely on race though ?

iirc didn't he have 20+ complaints made against him of man handling numerous people ranging from black/hispanic/white ?

Im not saying it wasn't racially motivated but regardless the fact he was white and the 5 officers involved in the latest incident were black draws a completely different reaction from the group who supposedly care about black lives and police violence.

Our whole society is gas lit by agenda and lobby groups raking in £££ off suffering and division.

There is good and bad people of all colours I dont get the constant need to bring race into everything.

 

[PhilM]

Is there any proof that the officer who killed George Floyd did it purely on race though ?

iirc didn't he have 20+ complaints made against him of man handling numerous people ranging from black/hispanic/white ?

Im not saying it wasn't racially motivated but regardless the fact he was white and the 5 officers involved in the latest incident were black draws a completely different reaction from the group who supposedly care about black lives and police violence.

Our whole society is gas lit by agenda and lobby groups raking in £££ off suffering and division.

There is good and bad people of all colours I dont get the constant need to bring race into everything.

No, but when police officers in the US are eight times more likely to kill an unarmed black person than a white person, it's a conclusion to be considered.

When per capita, a person of colour is three times more likely to be arrested than a white person for the same crime, it's a conclusion to be considered.

When a person of colour is likely to receive nearly three times the length of custodial sentence than a white person, it's a conclusion to be considered.

We could also talk about the disproportionate numbers of people of colour in prisons, on death row and those proven to have suffered a miscarriage of justice.

There is no proof that the individual officer(s) acted due to his race, but statistically the evidence would suggest it's likely it may have - consciously or not.

In terms of the last one, until race isn't an issue (as proven by the statistics) it definitely should be brought up. It may not always be the factor in a case...

... but as a whole it is. So back to my original point, maybe if black people weren't more likely to be killed when unarmed it wouldn't need to be brought up.

Cause and effect - deal with the root issue rather than trying to blame those who are facing the injustice.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

In many ways - thank you slavery and thank you racial segregation you have given us MLK and Rosa Parks.

Thank you Hitler - you gave us Anne Frank's wonderful book and terrific museum.

Crying

 

[Nightman]

When is a centrist not a centrist?

If a centrist makes a good point and no one is around to hear it, do they make a good point?

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

MLK would have been a person ya'll have never heard of had America not created a racist society at his time.

Can someone sticky this comment please, I'm a glass half full type of guy and really don't believe FB92 has meant it as it's come across, but man alive ?