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so you're angry with the people who hate Tate and fervently disagree with him and wish they would understand why people like him?
I don't know a whole lot about him but I'll give it a shot.
People (mostly men) in society with very little going for them feel that he gives them a voice. It's lowest common denominator populism and its not too difficult to figure out why it appeals to so many young men.
Now "culture wars" is a bit of a lazy catch all but I do think that pretty much anyone who disagrees with Tate understands why people like him. If holding the polar opposite views to him isn't for you, what do you propose?

Andrew Tate is a product of our lude society - nothing more nothing less.

You create a society but then complain and moan when there is a reaction created from your actions. MLK would have been a person ya'll have never heard of had America not created a racist society at his time.

Most historical/public figures are products of their societies.

So instead of hating on Andrew Tate and his followers - first look at the society that you created.
 
There is no excuse for the disorder, but you can't blame the 15 year old girl for sharing the video. It's a sad fact that without sharing the video, she wouldn't have been believed. Enquiries into this kind of thing in other towns have shown that she would have been accused of making it up, or been pressured to keep quiet and not say anything.
 
There is no excuse for the disorder, but you can't blame the 15 year old girl for sharing the video. It's a sad fact that without sharing the video, she wouldn't have been believed. Enquiries into this kind of thing in other towns have shown that she would have been accused of making it up, or been pressured to keep quiet and not say anything.
I think most people are blaming the racist animals outside to be honest
 
so you're angry with the people who hate Tate and fervently disagree with him and wish they would understand why people like him?
I don't know a whole lot about him but I'll give it a shot.
People (mostly men) in society with very little going for them feel that he gives them a voice. It's lowest common denominator populism and its not too difficult to figure out why it appeals to so many young men.
Now "culture wars" is a bit of a lazy catch all but I do think that pretty much anyone who disagrees with Tate understands why people like him. If holding the polar opposite views to him isn't for you, what do you propose?

Good point this.

There seems to be an argument which lets Tate off the hook, by saying “he’s just a reaction to the underlying culture”, as if this is some 5D Chess level thinking.

All culture is generally a reaction to some other bit of culture, the online world is just an extension of that. This is obvious stuff.

Think we can still call out sex traffickers like Tate as being in the wrong, without having to do mental gymnastics to explain the underlying causes.
 
Andrew Tate is a product of our lude society - nothing more nothing less.

You create a society but then complain and moan when there is a reaction created from your actions. MLK would have been a person ya'll have never heard of had America not created a racist society at his time.

Most historical/public figures are products of their societies.

So instead of hating on Andrew Tate and his followers - first look at the society that you created.

You are right here, but for the wrong reasons.

The only reason Tate occupies the position that he does is because he fundamentally supports the society that you support. He is a conspicuous consumer, treats people like things to be exploited for money, feigns interest in religion and other old wisdom, cheats and avoids tax.

He is - as someone said last night - the centrist's centrist, packaged to mug the youth (as happens in nearly every generation) into believing something is rebellious when actually it is the establishment's doing.
 
I think most people are blaming the racist animals outside to be honest

That's fair enough, but I think it's sad that young girls are not believed and are told to be quiet when they disclose this type of thing. You can't blame them for recording the grooming and sharing it online because they would otherwise be accused of making it up, 'asking for it', or being racist without the hard evidence to back it up. It wouldn't surprise me if young girls feel like they HAVE to record and publish this type of thing, otherwise nobody will believe them.
 
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