We need to talk about Nottingham Forest.

[Clarky cat]

Villa away today. Don’t let us down Sean.

He’s started well…



What. A. Manager.

 

[MikeH72]

He’s started well…

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What. A. Manager.

What more do you expect from a squad that cost only double what their opponents’ did?

 

[Saint Domingo]

We only play in the PL because of Dyche.

I think that's why - even when his ghost has been laid to rest at Everton now - loads of posters on here continue to be still obsessed with him. They cant get over that basic fact that all other Everton supporters recognise.

It's a ridiculous situation. Why not just acknowledge that there are very few managers that could have handled the pressure of the points deduction season, when the PL and media were intent on destroying us, and that Dyche was one of them and he got us to safety.

It's as simple as that. Do that and all the mithering ends for you. Seems easy enough to me.

The only salient fact that matters.

His job was to hand us over to new owners as a PL club. He did that.

 

[RomanReigns]

Remember when dyche saved that penalty against James Maddison

What a hero

 

[Clarky cat]

What more do you expect from a squad that cost only double what their opponents’ did?

I’m not sure how much more evidence is needed to dispel the myth that he can play any other way, regardless of the players available to him. He’d found his level on Talksport. I imagine he will soon be touring around the globe telling ball-achingly dull anecdotes in the not too distant future.

 

[RomanReigns]

Dyche has convinced so many people that he saved Everton with his rubbish tactics and gibberish

“but no one else wanted the job”, “he had rubbish players though”, “the club was a mess”

Classic Stockholm syndrome

 

[jazzy]

The only salient fact that matters.

His job was to hand us over to new owners as a PL club. He did that.

Before he lost his bottle.

Let me be fair. Initially he did well to help overcome the financial mess that Moshiri created and to preserve our PL status.

However the fact is that he and we were extremely lucky that there were 3 absolutely pathetic teams that were relegated instead.

The football was shocking.

Moyes showed what a poor manager he was by transforming our fortunes with the same players.

 

[JimEFC_2]

Like a knife through butter those passes and the scoring shot. Like playing table football and your mate stops to check his phone. Awful defending from Seany Clean Sheets

 

[FTY]

What more do you expect from a squad that cost only double what their opponents’ did?

Is this true?!

 

[JimEFC_2]

It happened with Allardyce once he failed at Leeds he was finished

Hooefully they stay up on goal difference, they keep Dyche, and then finish bottom with no wins next season. Proper misery that for the Notts fans.

 

[Kantareller]

Proper Dyche performance this

 

[maccavennie]

Before the City game there was an interview on TNT where he sat down for a curry and a pint with the presenter. He spent the whole time playing down expectations and saying Forest had been on a good run from promotion then qualifying for Europe under Nuno but expectations had gone way above what they should and now they needed to settle down and the target was to become a top 10 club.

The money spent, the squad at his disposal doesnt matter. Its all about shaping the narrative to fit his skillset and we all know about that.

So, its a case of whether their owner is happy if they languish between 17th and 10th this season or if he expects Dyche to do more with what's at his disposal.

 

[Rich1878]

Just noticed the score. Isn't this delightful

 

[Gilbert..]

Dyche post match interview...

We're getting there. But you need to remember this goes back to Des Walker and Franz Carr. Before i got here.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Before he lost his bottle.

Let me be fair. Initially he did well to help overcome the financial mess that Moshiri created and to preserve our PL status.

However the fact is that he and we were extremely lucky that there were 3 absolutely pathetic teams that were relegated instead.

The football was shocking.

Moyes showed what a poor manager he was by transforming our fortunes with the same players.

The only thing that matters. The future of the club was secured in that one moment and the 48 points the following season to see us through the points deductions and the PS&R crisis whilst remaining a PL team.

Give another manager a team in 19th with their best players sold, amid an injury crisis, tell them they’ve got two points deductions on the way, and they have to make profit from all their transfers for the next 4 windows whilst heir rivals spend 10s of millions more on strengthening. See how many want the job, and how many more would actually have done it.

No Friedkins, no new stadium, no Pickford Branthwaite Ndiaye Grealish, double administrations and perhaps even liquidation in the championship at best.

So do I care about the aesthetic of his football when he avoided all of the above?

Everyone only talks in hindsight about the only alternative being a happier path where a different manager came in, played better football and pulled us away with ease. But there was also another, in my view more likely alternative where we could have easily hired a Potter type who took us down and if that had happened there’d have been people on here begging for the outcome Dyche delivered. Like house mortgaging, limb severing, praying to every god available begging. We’d have been begging for the future of the club we now have. Begging.

No one thinks of that when they trash Dyche for a quick laugh though. The bloke can relegate Forest if he wants, it means nothing to me, I wouldn’t care if he quit now and never managed again, the club I support is safe and it’s future secured.