We need to talk about Nottingham Forest.

[coollino]

He’s just a narcissist. Spent his whole career with two idiots next to him and mates in the media telling him how great he is. Completely unable to look at himself and critically evaluate, no wonder his former players hate him everywhere he’s been.

Yea he got away with it at Burnley as no one cared about them enough, but was never going to work at Everton or forest

 

[GoldenToffee]

It's Woany and Stoney I feel for. Innocent victims in this game. All they want is for their boss to get another relegation fighting gig so they can continue their jobs for the boys gig.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Has to include the wins vs part timers in the euro league thing.

It's the Europa League mate. Not Conference. A competition we'd dearly love to qualify for. He joined at Porto;

While 7th and a Conference League place it noteworthy (only Textor's incompetence put them in the Europa), he took that momentum and squashed it by berating his manager on the pitch and running him out of town.

Manager 1: organized, counter-attacking squad
Manager 2: Open, free flowing, little regard for shape or defense
Manager 3: Overwhelmingly compact, shape and defense priorities 1-10

All within 6 months. This is the mismanagement, not going through 3 managers, but going through three very different managers. If there's ever been a time it's been tried (maybe Swansea 10 years ago?) it won't work.

You look at clubs like Brentford, Brighton etc...the clubs with models, they don't transform their playing style with each appointment.

As far as Dyche goes, he managed the noise better than anyone could have hoped at Everton. The football? Good enough, just. And I'm sure there are others out there who could have done a better job, but bringing that up ignores the dumpster fire that Moshiri et al created, no one of any substance was taking that job. Just look at the two who took it before him...

Agree with a lot of that mate, the swing from Nuno to Ange, without a preseason proved too dramatic - sometimes that can work, like Moyes to Martinez, Pearson to Ranieri - and I suspect a factor in why they went for a 'knows the area' *shudder* but more importantly, defensive minded manager, closer to Nuno to try and restore some parity/keep them afloat. Whatever the owner expected this season - it was a write off the second they're looking for a third permanent manager in October. They've swung all over the place after a bold decision didn't work with Ange, our owners had similar with Roma for a spell.

Brentford, Brighton and Bournemouth largely know their place, and they benefit from expectations and patience around that. It's not just Forest owners with delusions of grandeur.

But the point was, and still is - the bigger picture on Marinakis and his impact at Forest is based on nearly 10 years, not since the summer. Factor in they hadnt been in the Prem for 24 years, they'll just have to cope with a bad season. Poor them. Any sneers at the owner should factor in the whole picture, not just since August.

 

[Connor]

He’s just a narcissist. Spent his whole career with two idiots next to him and mates in the media telling him how great he is. Completely unable to look at himself and critically evaluate, no wonder his former players hate him everywhere he’s been.

Those two idiots, who regularly got into training blow ups with Everton players.

The same Dyche who basically stabbed our club captain in the back with his treatment of Jake O'Brien after using said club captain as a pitchman to bring him over.

There is a reason why his name is not mentioned around the place, and why Baines and Coleman looked delighted he'd gone after that Peterborough game. You can respect the job he did here - I don't - but people hate him, and have good reasons to, and they're gonna look forward to him failing.

He's not loved at Burnley either, by the way, for anyone who trots that line out.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

From what ive read and heard of Forest fans they sussed him out after about 5 games. If plan A didnt work he'd try plan A.

Yeah it did show him up to be fair.

Get to the byline and cross. To infinity.

When that didn't work, he'd proactively change wingers (2 changes at half time!) and repeat.

Forest fans didnt want Nuno either, and legit wanted Ange out after 2 games.

So I don't put a lot of stock into that.

I've sat with their fans more times than I'd like to admit - they're largely insufferable.

 

[Nymzee]

It's the Europa League mate. Not Conference. A competition we'd dearly love to qualify for. He joined at Porto;

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Think I'd beat those sides playing on my own.

 

[MikeH72]

Those two idiots, who regularly got into training blow ups with Everton players.

The same Dyche who basically stabbed our club captain in the back with his treatment of Jake O'Brien after using said club captain as a pitchman to bring him over.

There is a reason why his name is not mentioned around the place, and why Baines and Coleman looked delighted he'd gone after that Peterborough game. You can respect the job he did here - I don't - but people hate him, and have good reasons to, and they're gonna look forward to him failing.

He's not loved at Burnley either, by the way, for anyone who trots that line out.

Is the rumour about Brownhill rejecting us the other season because he can’t stand Dyche true?

 

[efcste97]

Apparently it’s a wild suggestion, according to this Notts fan, to say Dyche doesn’t have a Plan B. I’d argue it’s far wilder to claim that he does, based on actual facts and his managerial record over the past decade.

 

[Connor]

Is the rumour about Brownhill rejecting us the other season because he can’t stand Dyche true?

Yep

 

[Efcjake]

Hahahahahahahahahaa

@Saint Domingo

 

[Efcjake]

Bet he's not getting a Prem team next time! Hahahahahahaha

 

[Nymzee]

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Apparently it’s a wild suggestion, according to this Notts fan, to say Dyche doesn’t have a Plan B. I’d argue it’s far wilder to claim that he does, based on actual facts and his managerial record over the past decade.

Read a few of that guys posts in that thread and quite convinced he's a Dyche employee.

 

[pfim]

Is the rumour about Brownhill rejecting us the other season because he can’t stand Dyche true?

Mike, this is the anti-Dyche thread. Shouldn't be bringing things up that put Dyche in a better light.

 

[coollino]

Forest clearly wanted him gone as they didn't complain to the FA that Europa wins don't count for 3 points in the prem

 

[Efcjake]

#thankyougaffer trending among the Forest fans yet?

Hahahahahaha