Viva Hate

[Bluecranks]

Kopites are gobshites, but I don't hate them I pity them. It must be awful being them.

 

[BainesMakeHerDance]

So I am from Alabama and did not become an Evertonian (I hope I can claim that?) until 2011-2012 season...

So what exactly is the history of "Hysel" and the ban? I know its annoying to ask, but I would like to become saturated with as much Everton lore and history as possible.

As for the RS...I hate them.

 

[Dario Terracotta]

After the Andy King Derby I remember groups of Liverpool fans frothing at the mouth and snarling at any Evertonian within range. Never seen such childish bitter supporters like that.....suppose it didn't help pointing and laughing at them. It was our first derby win for like 7 years and they couldn't handle it......and we are the supposedly bitter ones.

Yep,although the "Sharpy" derby at the pit was worse after we failed to read the time-honoured script of a 3-1 defeat and then get patronised by them,they went ape on Walton Break Road as we all filed out of the "deep end"lol

 

[Armchair Dave]

They wanted to see us relegated and bankrupt in the 90's. I haven't forgotten how excited they were in 94 and 98.

As a kid I remember not getting in to watch us against Wimbledon (tried to pay at the gate) whilst seeing a bloke with an RS scarf queue with the away fans. Hope he enjoyed it the utter creature.

 

[Runcornblue52]

So I am from Alabama and did not become an Evertonian (I hope I can claim that?) until 2011-2012 season...

So what exactly is the history of "Hysel" and the ban? I know its annoying to ask, but I would like to become saturated with as much Everton lore and history as possible.

As for the RS...I hate them.

Probably easier to google Heysel stadium disaster mate. The upshot was that Everton at the time were regarded as the best team in Europe. but were banned from competing in the European cup through no fault of their own .

 

[roydo]

So I am from Alabama and did not become an Evertonian (I hope I can claim that?) until 2011-2012 season...

So what exactly is the history of "Hysel" and the ban? I know its annoying to ask, but I would like to become saturated with as much Everton lore and history as possible.

As for the RS...I hate them.

Potted history. Liverpool were playing Juve in the CL final in Belgium, Heysell was the ground. RS run at Juve fans, a wall gives way, and 39 Italian fans die.

UEFA then ban English clubs from European football for 5 years, the year we won the league.

RS then rub it in by displaying a banner on the Kop.

 

[Armchair Dave]

Potted history. Liverpool were playing Juve in the CL final in Belgium, Heysell was the ground. RS run at Juve fans, a wall gives way, and 39 Italian fans die.

UEFA then ban English clubs from European football for 5 years, the year we won the league.

RS then rub it in by displaying a banner on the Kop.

Then take 30 years to actually acknowledge it happened (not apologise though)

 

[Achilles Heel]

Lots and lots of reasons but here are just a small part of the collection:

• I remember standing as a teenager on County Rd as the team buses came by after LFC had won the double. Ronny Moran was on top of that bus, swearing & sneering at the Everton fans with the Cup. Seemed to miss the point that they may have won the double but the city had turned out in unity to welcome both teams home. I know he's passed now but complete [Poor language removed]!
• 5 mins later a much older LFC fan walked up to me and asked why me and my little brother were there - EFC hadn't won anything.
• Heysel and our ban from Europe - a disgrace for the city and one their fans and agents in the media have carefully tried to erase from memory. We didn't know it then but it has shaped our recent history - damage from which we still haven't recovered.
• Not so much the fans in the city but the plastics all over the country that claim to love them yet have no real affinity with Merseyside. They support them because "they won a lot when I was young in Southall."Living down south I see this shallowness every day.
• Their total disregard for the first 70 years of their existence when Everton felt sorry for them and their struggles to get out of the second division.
• Those quotes from Shankly and Hughes that Everton never bothered to reply to. Everton might have assumed the moral high ground, but fans of other clubs remember them. We should have shot back. Oh the irony years later of Shankly's affection for Everton and disdain for LFC.
• The mythical, media driven love-in that is the 'Anfield atmosphere.' It doesn't exist anymore - it is a corporate, mismatch of a stadium with few locals able to afford to attend.
• Their inability to recognise that their dominance over the last 20 years has been the result of their huge financial advantage over Everton and ability to buy better players. If you ask most of them, its just because Liverpool were better, not richer.
• Their disdain for the local scouser and courtship of wealthy tourists.

There is an awful lot more....

 

[paultheblue]

My earliest recollections of despising them was watching the 66 cup winners cup final when Dortmund beat them 2-1.
I watched the final with my arl fella who was extatic. before that night I didn't care whether they won or lost.
Back in those days they were second best and we were the bigger club and they knew it
When we won the league in 1970 they couldn't handle it and a few days later after Gerry Byrne's testimonial at Anfield there fans went on the rampage round Goodison smashing the windows of houses and kicking cars singing you can stick your f*** title up your arse.
But were the bitter ones arnt We?

 

[TheFinnFan]

My earliest recollections of despising them was watching the 66 cup winners cup final when Dortmund beat them 2-1.
I watched the final with my arl fella who was extatic. before that night I didn't care whether they won or lost.
Back in those days they were second best and we were the bigger club and they knew it
When we won the league in 1970 they couldn't handle it and a few days later after Gerry Byrne's testimonial at Anfield there fans went on the rampage round Goodison smashing the windows of houses and kicking cars singing you can stick your f*** title up your arse.
But were the bitter ones arnt We?

Bad ***** them

 

[captainvindaloo]

They are the most over-hyped team of the PL era. Their infiltration of the media is sickening, but has clearly done wonders for their marketing department, who, with the help of these overpaid has-beens, promote the idea that they are some kind of footballing elite! They actually do this with a straight face! No wonder they are inundated with deluded tourists who know them only by means of the propaganda they are fed.
Ask them when they last won something and they will evade it by bragging how they always beat us in a derby!
They are like dog crap on a shoe, annoying, smelly, but easily scraped and washed off to be forgotten.

 

[Blues Harp]

My earliest recollections of despising them was watching the 66 cup winners cup final when Dortmund beat them 2-1.
I watched the final with my arl fella who was extatic. before that night I didn't care whether they won or lost.
Back in those days they were second best and we were the bigger club and they knew it
When we won the league in 1970 they couldn't handle it and a few days later after Gerry Byrne's testimonial at Anfield there fans went on the rampage round Goodison smashing the windows of houses and kicking cars singing you can stick your f*** title up your arse.
But were the bitter ones arnt We?

Agreed...its not just a recent phenomena.....once a shoite....

 

[dandydan]

have we mentioned forcing working class scousers from their homes to enable the new stand to be constructed?

 

[COYBL25]

The things I've done in the past for a silk hat would make most of you on here blush

Why do you come here, when you know it makes things hard for me

 

[COYBL25]

There is a stunningly large hole in their character where humility should be. Everything they seem to do makes me cringe or shudder. Like the way their diluted fanbase means local r/s 'overscouse' themselves, becoming the stereotype and wearing it as a badge of honour. Melts.
I have good mates who are r/s but the become different when they're in a crowd, like the Borg.
I was raised to not like them. The old man would always say 'they grow cabbages there' whenever we drove past the tip.
But, their inability to grasp the reality of situations like Heysel, amongst others, and how others view things, instead repeating the party line mantra like has turned that dislike into a genuine hatred for all they represent, which isn't our city btw, but a true corporate whore with a fetish for patent leather fascism.
I have totally stood by the Hillsborough campaign as many others do, would never call or shout 'murderers' or 'wall-pushers' at them because basically, as an Evertonian, I am better than that. A few more should remember that. Shouting that stuff is what I would expect of them if the roles were reversed. UTFT!!

I think you can put most of the RS into categories:

1- As mentioned, your mates / family member.

Who are sound other than supporting them. ( they took a wrong turn in life and you can forgive them for it )

2- The super fan.

Likes wearing the kit, never goes to the match, but watches the game in the pub, screams at the telly, calls every player by their first name, like he knows them personally. Everyone in the pub secretly hates him and now and again comes very close to a slap, before he slopes off. Doesn't have a bird and lives at home in the box room with his parents.

3 - The out of towner / foreigner.

Jumped on the Sky bandwagon and goes to the game a few times a year. Usually stays for the weekend and has a high probability of becoming a crime statistic in and around Mathew Street / Wood Street.

4 - The fanatic.

Likely to be a member of Spirit of Shankly, covered in tats of Rafael, Stevie G, King Kenny etc. Hasn't got time for anything else, inc his wife and kids. A dangerous individual and likely to be institutionalised at least once in his life. ( think of Robbie Carlye's Albie character in Cracker for those old enough and you're getting there ). Knows where the players and manager live and likely to pay them unannounced visits.