VAR - the death of football (as I know it)

[davek]

..oh dear, i’m one of those idiots. Elite clubs get decisions without VAR, my hope is it will inform more of a level playing field.

The process has to become more efficient and i’m hopeful the level of decision making will eventually be more consistent. Penalties like yesterday’s are subjective but for me a condition of proportionality needs to be applied. More specifically, was the action of the attacker proportionate to that of the defender. I don’t think Salah’s reaction was proportionate to the level of contact from the defender.

No system that calls for interpretation is ever going to rule out bias whatever the tweaking.

The real insidious nature of the VAR system is that it can provide a veneer of credibility to the preferential treatment handed out to elite clubs by suggesting that decisions are nearer to a science now and that *gets us away* from the suspicion that bigger clubs are given more than their fair share of favourable decisions.

 

[Jamiednm]

The biggest problem with it is commentators pronouncing it ‘Var’ instead of ‘V-A-R’.

 

[spence03]

I know it needs to be trailed somewhere but it seems wrong to me that soms matches in the cup have it and others don't. Liverpool, rightly it must be said, benefitted yesterday twice from VAR, whereas City have just had a goal disallowed and haven't got a review option. Your choosing teams who could be kept in a competition.

Would Lallana's penalty decision have stood with VAR? If not, why have Everton not benefitted if you're going to use it in a knockout competition.

Decisions for offsides fine but not fouls.

 

[ToffeeTim]

It needs to be taken out of the hands of the ref.

It needs to be a challenge based system like NFL, Tennis, Cricket etc. One per half when the manager chooses.

The reviews need to be carried out by another ref because self evaluation doesn't lend for good decision making.

Otherwise it will remain a farce with refs reviewing absolutely everything.

I'm completely right here Fifa, so suck it up and accept my advice, and get it sorted.

 

[blue61]

Waiting 4 minutes for a decision will ruin the game, I'm in full agreement with the OP. The authorities should use the technology available to clamp down on all the overpaid ferrets who spend half the game cheating.

 

[toffeejack]

I know it needs to be trailed somewhere but it seems wrong to me that soms matches in the cup have it and others don't. Liverpool, rightly it must be said, benefitted yesterday twice from VAR, whereas City have just had a goal disallowed and haven't got a review option. Your choosing teams who could be kept in a competition.

Would Lallana's penalty decision have stood with VAR? If not, why have Everton not benefitted if you're going to use it in a knockout competition.

Decisions for offsides fine but not fouls.

This is what I've been saying. It's [Poor language removed] amateur from the FA this. I mean how stupid are they. I thought it was just for televised matches in the FA Cup, which itself was a pathetic decision. Now it seems to be just some televised matches.

Why couldn't they implement it for every game in the FA youth Cup for example. Imagine if the RS went through yesterday because of the assistance and won the cup. Whereas Cardiff turned it around and knocked out city who would have had a different scoreline had they been paying in a Var enabled game?

There would be every right in saying the best team didn't win the competition. You've got to have a level playing field for a whole cup. I simply don't understand how this has happened, its so so amateur.

 

[detonatot7]

Show the VAR replays in the ground, then the fans get the drama of it instead of standing there going wtf is going on. And the argument that it will start riots is bs as rugby games always show it and I see no violence there.

 

[roydo]

like NFL, Tennis, Cricket etc

They last for 4 hours, up to 5 hours, and 5 days though.

Linnear decisions only, then sound. Everything else is swapping the refs opinion for someones elses. Makes no sense that.

 

[Prevenger17]

No system that calls for interpretation is ever going to rule out bias whatever the tweaking.

The real insidious nature of the VAR system is that it can provide a veneer of credibility to the preferential treatment handed out to elite clubs by suggesting that decisions are nearer to a science now and that *gets us away* from the suspicion that bigger clubs are given more than their fair share of favourable decisions.

What? It would definitely do more to stop elite favouritism than not having it

 

[ToffeeTim]

They last for 4 hours, up to 5 hours, and 5 days though.

Linnear decisions only, then sound. Everything else is swapping the refs opinion for someones elses. Makes no sense that.

If left to the refs, they will review everything. As seen with the one which mignolet flopped at. He reviewed it even though half the west brom team were over 5 yards off.

 

[davek]

What? It would definitely do more to stop elite favouritism than not having it

No. VAR is a subjective evaluation of what should be reviewed. Some incidents they'll review, others they wont.

You can guess who'll be the beneficiary of that system.

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

It will slow the game down in epic proportions. Soon every goal or foul will be reviewed.

 

[mmmmsnouts]

The worst is going to be when a referee who normally waves away weak penalty appeals suddenly goes to VAR and gives them all. The live refereeing standard and the VAR standard are going to be two different things.

 

[Pabbers]

Looks to me to be a leveller for the smaller or the non-sky bum boys.

 

[royalblue66]

Was told if we lose the connection, and can't get a picture, the FA have no plan B ?
Could be in for a long night,sometime in the future.