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The dots I was joining were very much Stadium based to be honest. But when he sold out of Arsenal, that was the moment that a wider picture opened up, in Dot Land anyrate.
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The dots I was joining were very much Stadium based to be honest. But when he sold out of Arsenal, that was the moment that a wider picture opened up, in Dot Land anyrate.
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
Whilst an initial shedload of cash would obviously be very welcome, overtime it is not sustainable and lets not forget all of the top sides have made significant amounts of money from selling players.
Only Man City, who are backed by a sovereign state no less, and not an individual / organisation, have bucked that trend, whilst Man Utd have loosened the purse strings only recently, with little success.
I'n not saying we couldn't do with another couple of hundred million spent on players, but if Usmanov was to help even with the stadium alone, in either underwriting the so-called private element of the funding, and helping to ensure that capacity came in at 60k plus, then that would be significant.
It is a hugely inflationary market which will eventually pop, and I think the days of Abramovich or his ilk personally underwriting years of transfer spending, are at an end.
It is unglamourous, but we need the stadium, stability, and sustainability. I was very surprised at Keith Harris' comments in the aftermath of the Usmanov 'news' but maybe this is what he meant by help coming in more than one way.
Only Man City, who are backed by a sovereign state no less, and not an individual / organisation, have bucked that trend, whilst Man Utd have loosened the purse strings only recently, with little success.
I'n not saying we couldn't do with another couple of hundred million spent on players, but if Usmanov was to help even with the stadium alone, in either underwriting the so-called private element of the funding, and helping to ensure that capacity came in at 60k plus, then that would be significant.
It is a hugely inflationary market which will eventually pop, and I think the days of Abramovich or his ilk personally underwriting years of transfer spending, are at an end.
It is unglamourous, but we need the stadium, stability, and sustainability. I was very surprised at Keith Harris' comments in the aftermath of the Usmanov 'news' but maybe this is what he meant by help coming in more than one way.
Yup, good city, more history than Man city, adjacent to another well known (if scummy) club, cheap to buy. Why not.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I've certainly not been as firm as some on here re Usmanov. I still wouldn't hang my hate and say I think he's here. However what I would say, is as you have pointed out there are an awful lot of inconsistencies in whats happened at Everton which are very easily and neatly explained if it was that Usmanov is the real power broker. No other explanation that I can see presents this an analysis which ties everything up so well (though it's not to say one doesn't exist, or that the Usmanov position is true).
Not only that, but many of the reasons given for it not being the case border on the ridiculous. They don't stand up to scrutiny. The latest being "Moshiri wants to go it alone" when there is zero evidence from what I can see that Moshiri has ever said that. The other that Everton is a bad investment unfortunately emanates from people not really understanding the legacy, history and opportunity that Everton presents. While I can forgive most journalists believing Everton's history is not comparable to manchester City or Chelsea, it's always a shame to see some fans being unable to comprehend that maybe the club and the City itself present opportunities that go far beyond what most other clubs can provide, at an exceptional price.
If someone with nous, who knew what they were doing go hold of Everton it would become an elite level team quite quickly. You simply cannot buy any top team now for less than a billion. All of them have difficulties, none will have a ground as well situated as ours, they may not even have a ground as good as ours. It's likely he looks for a club outside of the top 6 that can grow into being one of the biggest. Everton's history makes them stand out a mile, as does our performance, pretty much top 8 for the last 15 years. For the fee to buy in and throw a few hundred million at transfers it will still only be a fraction of the cost to buy into one of the 6 teams above us. He probably looks at it and thinks, "if I give these £3-400 million the sky's the limit, I'll do that).
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
It will only pop (or slow) when TV slows down, which it shows no sign of mate.
The last point is a good one, Usmanov gives us connections to other sources of income and authority far beyond his reach. Expect more competent people to either invest or take up formal roles within the club.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I only do a bit of trading here and there. It's a good investment. For a bloke like Usmanov, who is probably looking at acquiring a top end sports Franchise, and not against putting some funding/direction into the club as and when it's needed it presents a unique opportunity.
There are probably 4 or 5 teams in this country you can look at and say with the right direction they could be the biggest team in the country or in Europe. We are one of them.
Steve Wigan
Player Valuation: £35m
Viewing figures in the UK have been largely disappointing for Sky and in particular for BT. Sky and to a lesser extent BT earn their big football and other sports profits in Europe and the far east, with the USA becoming more profitable all the time. The interest in the Premier League in China is going off the scale. When Amazon and Netflix and others join in the bidding war next timeTV rights are on sale(not far ahead), the programmers will pay even more,and the pie will probably be divided between more than Sky and BT. This will mean considerably more expense for the viewer and might result in an increase in viewer apathy, The inevitability a number of years down the line is that top clubs will sell their own rights to home games,and even after giving a cut to the Premier League, the top clubs will make much more than they do now. The viewing figures in the UK may not be satisfactory, but the rest of the world is a cash cow that so far has only been milked minimally.
havrey0123
Player Valuation: £25m
Prices of players have changed since they were taken over.
To get players like aguero and de bruyne your looking at 150m+ and there the type of players required to take us to the next level.
Take mbappe or neymar for example your looking at 200m+ and over 500k a week in wages plus a massive Signing on bonus.
It will probably be more the 500k a week probably closer to 750k.
And make no mistake the money in the pl is because of the top 6, expect for either the top 6 to take a higher share of the TV money or for them to form their own league.
The likes of united and Madrid raked in 20m for 3 or 4 games playing their reserves in a non competitive match in the champions trophy, imagine if it was a competitive game.
The champions trophy is being played to see if there is demand around the world for these type of games and there is.
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Good luck to him, really hope Usmanov can pull this off
Alisher Usmanov, potential Arsenal chairman, is a Vicious Thug, Criminal, Racketeer, Heroin Trafficker and Accused Rapist
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2007/09/alisher_usmanov/
Quite an interesting article on our new overlord. Some interesting comment by Arsenal fans underneath too, going back over 10 years, not wanting him involved. Having money and investment is brilliant but at what price? We pride ourselves on integrity and and being a family, community Club. Is everyone on board with this? Are we really so desperate for mega investment that people will overlook this mans past? There has been outrage (faux ?) whenever there’s been anything questionable, links or otherwise, with other Clubs or players being involved with shady characters and yet, we are all salivating over this man giving us investment. I was as desperate as the next man for him to come onboard, I didn’t know about the above story but having read it, I’m now not so sure. I take pride in this Clubs history, tradition and integrity. Are we gonna put all that at stake for a ‘ Vicious Thug, Criminal, Racketeer, Heroin Trafficker and Accused Rapist’?
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2007/09/alisher_usmanov/
Quite an interesting article on our new overlord. Some interesting comment by Arsenal fans underneath too, going back over 10 years, not wanting him involved. Having money and investment is brilliant but at what price? We pride ourselves on integrity and and being a family, community Club. Is everyone on board with this? Are we really so desperate for mega investment that people will overlook this mans past? There has been outrage (faux ?) whenever there’s been anything questionable, links or otherwise, with other Clubs or players being involved with shady characters and yet, we are all salivating over this man giving us investment. I was as desperate as the next man for him to come onboard, I didn’t know about the above story but having read it, I’m now not so sure. I take pride in this Clubs history, tradition and integrity. Are we gonna put all that at stake for a ‘ Vicious Thug, Criminal, Racketeer, Heroin Trafficker and Accused Rapist’?
abelard
Player Valuation: £35m
Exactly. The English market is becoming increasingly incidental to the English Premier League. From the perspective of those who market global television rights, it ranks alongside mid-sized Chinese provinces.
If the owners were smart, they would scrap the luxury boxes and lower ticket prices to a fiver, because passionate young supporters who sing songs and wave flags provide a much more compelling aesthetic for the global sofa gazer than disinterested-looking middle age middle-class people.
rochdaleblue
Player Valuation: £50m
I am right in thinking one of the many companies usmanov is involved in is a steel company. The price of steel has risen substantially in recent years. Let’s hope we could get preferential rates from usmanov regarding steel for the stadium as this would save us a great deal of money. Due to its location on the waterfront the transport of steel shouldn’t be a problem.
Exactly
I’m sure Usmanov can afford to pay some of the top brains in the buisness world to run a football club
All he has to do is move them from his other successful buisnesss
Like other businessmen I’m sure he can call in favours and do behind closed door deals to get major “outside “ sponsorship on board if required
I can see a scenario where you sign up to buy one clubs games for the season
This then gives you the right to buy other games on a pay for view basis
I only watch Everton games and then just a few big games as they come up.
I’ve no interest in paying to watch Burnley vs Huddersfield on a Monday night
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