Current Affairs Ukraine

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Trench combat going on Eastern front. Despite modern technology this war is much more similar and static like WW1, than mobility, panzer divisions and Blitzkrieg of WW2

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Mr Johnson is hardly the architect of Britain’s policy in Ukraine, notes Robin Niblett of Chatham House, a think-tank. Rather, he has been following a trajectory, largely shaped by the Ministry of Defence, of preparing Ukraine against Russian aggression that has been in place since 2015. But the prime minister deserves credit for not recoiling as the crisis emerged, says Mr Niblett. “He’s been looking for a bigger purpose for British policy. Sometimes history throws you a card, and your positioning could be just right.”

The contrast with Mr Johnson’s timidity at home is striking. A fear of aggravating his backbench MPs and core voters was on full display on May 10th in a safety-first Queen’s Speech, which laid out the government’s legislative programme for the coming parliamentary session. His bombast often seems clownish, his character questionable, and his judgment weak: threats to rip up Britain’s deal with the EU over trade arrangements in Northern Ireland are deeply wrong-headed.

But on Ukraine at least, and in his commitments to Sweden and Finland, flourish and boldness have served Mr Johnson well. His predecessor, Theresa May, flew on a plane decked in dull air-force grey. These days it is liveried in red, white and blue, with gold lettering down the fuselage. ■

 

[Boss_Blue]

Trench combat going on Eastern front. Despite modern technology this war is much more similar and static like WW1, than mobility, panzer divisions and Blitzkrieg of WW2

Christ

 

[Tramps_mate]

Absolutely no idea mate. Our defence is multi-layered.

1. Detect the ballistic missiles (they could be ICBM’s, or tactical ballistic missiles or even air launched nuclear cruise missiles.

We use the BMEWS system, of which RAF Fylingdales is one of four early warning sites.

2. For ICBM’s the main point defence is the US based GMD system that kills the ICBM’s in space - but is used to protect the US. Don’t know much about it but they have 4 interceptor sites deployed in the US.

In Europe, ICBM and LR ballistic missile point defence is based on AEGIS (Ashore and sea-based). Effectively there are land based sites in Poland and Romania linked to an EW radar system in Turkey. There are also 4 deployed AEGIS destroyers in Europe at any one time. 2 in Med, one by U.K. and one up North. The U.K. also has 6 type 45 destroyers who can also intercept ICBM’s. These will be deployed around our coastline.

3. For medium / short range ballistic missile defence there are THAAD sites deployed in Romania and Germany

4. For short /tactical range ballistic missile defence Patriot PAC-3 sites are deployed in Poland, Slovakia, Germany, Holland,

As a final barrier all nato countries will deploy their own short range AD systems. For us it would be Sky sabre. Deployed close to all critical infrastructure sites.

As you say. I'm fairly confident the UK would never be hit by a nuclear missile..

 

[Bluerover]

She looks about 12!

I was thinking the same - made me very uncomfortable. She will be exploited until of no further use, and will then find herself in her mid 20s cast aside for the next pretty young thing, jobless uneducated, and clueless about the harsh realities of life outside the glamour model bubble.

So many have gone before her and ended up with serious addiction problems and dead all too young.

 

[Bluerover]

If this goes wrong we can stop worrying about world climate change - there will be no world and a toxic poisoned nuclear atmosphere.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

If this goes wrong we can stop worrying about world climate change - there will be no world and a toxic poisoned nuclear atmosphere.

Are you this sunny all the time?

 

[Bluerover]

Are you this sunny all the time?

Just being realistic. So far the people in the West are feeling a serious economic pinch. People having to choose between feeding their families, turning off their utilities, soup kitchens seeing exponential rise in their clients. If you think we should all be cheerful fair enough.

That is horrible enough for them. If fighting spreads further to other countries and NATO is directly brought in, then as others have posted, massive numbers of innocents will we wiped out.

I understand Climate Change very well having worked in the area professionally for many years. We won't be worrying anymore about GHG from cattle belching - it just won't matter.

Chernobyl was one off accident at nuclear plant yet 36 years later the area within miles of the plant is uninhabitable, children still being born with terrible deformities.

But let's not worry about all out deliberate strikes.

Lovely sunny day here - having a lovely time.

 

[Ivo]

I love this

Why?

 

[tsubaki]

Mr Johnson is hardly the architect of Britain’s policy in Ukraine, notes Robin Niblett of Chatham House, a think-tank. Rather, he has been following a trajectory, largely shaped by the Ministry of Defence, of preparing Ukraine against Russian aggression that has been in place since 2015. But the prime minister deserves credit for not recoiling as the crisis emerged, says Mr Niblett. “He’s been looking for a bigger purpose for British policy. Sometimes history throws you a card, and your positioning could be just right.”

The contrast with Mr Johnson’s timidity at home is striking. A fear of aggravating his backbench MPs and core voters was on full display on May 10th in a safety-first Queen’s Speech, which laid out the government’s legislative programme for the coming parliamentary session. His bombast often seems clownish, his character questionable, and his judgment weak: threats to rip up Britain’s deal with the EU over trade arrangements in Northern Ireland are deeply wrong-headed.

But on Ukraine at least, and in his commitments to Sweden and Finland, flourish and boldness have served Mr Johnson well. His predecessor, Theresa May, flew on a plane decked in dull air-force grey. These days it is liveried in red, white and blue, with gold lettering down the fuselage. ■

I really do despair of statements like this.

Johnson's entire career is littered with instances were he has said something, people have lapped it up and then found out it isn't true / he isn't doing any of it / he never intended to do any of it. Even that article acknowledges it, but goes on to say something along the lines of "yes, but lets give him the benefit of the doubt".

This country may be facing a very difficult time - increased global disorder, financial problems, food and energy shortages, climate change. He has prepared the country for precisely none of these problems, nor will he ever do so. His government's response to energy problems was to stop onshore wind because it might ruin people's view. His response to the increased cost of living problems was to tell departments to cut more. There has still, nearly 3 months into this war, been no reversal of defence cuts.

 

[thirdmantackle]

Mr Johnson is hardly the architect of Britain’s policy in Ukraine, notes Robin Niblett of Chatham House, a think-tank. Rather, he has been following a trajectory, largely shaped by the Ministry of Defence, of preparing Ukraine against Russian aggression that has been in place since 2015. But the prime minister deserves credit for not recoiling as the crisis emerged, says Mr Niblett. “He’s been looking for a bigger purpose for British policy. Sometimes history throws you a card, and your positioning could be just right.”

The contrast with Mr Johnson’s timidity at home is striking. A fear of aggravating his backbench MPs and core voters was on full display on May 10th in a safety-first Queen’s Speech, which laid out the government’s legislative programme for the coming parliamentary session. His bombast often seems clownish, his character questionable, and his judgment weak: threats to rip up Britain’s deal with the EU over trade arrangements in Northern Ireland are deeply wrong-headed.

But on Ukraine at least, and in his commitments to Sweden and Finland, flourish and boldness have served Mr Johnson well. His predecessor, Theresa May, flew on a plane decked in dull air-force grey. These days it is liveried in red, white and blue, with gold lettering down the fuselage. ■

Everytime he goes abroad or announces another pledge to an 'ally' it's basically to deflect from more scandal or poor political news in the UK

 

[thirdmantackle]

Just being realistic. So far the people in the West are feeling a serious economic pinch. People having to choose between feeding their families, turning off their utilities, soup kitchens seeing exponential rise in their clients. If you think we should all be cheerful fair enough.

That is horrible enough for them. If fighting spreads further to other countries and NATO is directly brought in, then as others have posted, massive numbers of innocents will we wiped out.

I understand Climate Change very well having worked in the area professionally for many years. We won't be worrying anymore about GHG from cattle belching - it just won't matter.

Chernobyl was one off accident at nuclear plant yet 36 years later the area within miles of the plant is uninhabitable, children still being born with terrible deformities.

But let's not worry about all out deliberate strikes.

Lovely sunny day here - having a lovely time.

People in some countries are worrying about feeding their families or paying utilities
Luckily most people in western europe don't live in Tory UK

 

[peteblue]

I really do despair of statements like this.

Johnson's entire career is littered with instances were he has said something, people have lapped it up and then found out it isn't true / he isn't doing any of it / he never intended to do any of it. Even that article acknowledges it, but goes on to say something along the lines of "yes, but lets give him the benefit of the doubt".

This country may be facing a very difficult time - increased global disorder, financial problems, food and energy shortages, climate change. He has prepared the country for precisely none of these problems, nor will he ever do so. His government's response to energy problems was to stop onshore wind because it might ruin people's view. His response to the increased cost of living problems was to tell departments to cut more. There has still, nearly 3 months into this war, been no reversal of defence cuts.

You would say the same about anything positive about Boris….

 

[peteblue]

Everytime he goes abroad or announces another pledge to an 'ally' it's basically to deflect from more scandal or poor political news in the UK

Or…just maybe, he’s doing the right thing. Who would you replace him with ?…..

 

[tsubaki]

You would say the same about anything positive about Boris….

yes, his leadership will make the Welsh reconquest more realistic than its been in 1500 years