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[Spadge Vernacular]

Missing part of the sentence would be

But this is.... simply laughably unbelievable if you study what's actually been happening on the ground.

All from the same people these statistics who insist The Ukraine has lost less than 100k in total in nearly three years

But believe the propoganda and don't forget a second wonder how these numbers compute when one side has every single advantage in terms of missile strikes, air support an overwhelming artillery advantage, a manpower advantage, experience and training advantage and a shell advantage.

Or are we still believing the human wave bs which there's been pretty much no evidence evidence and even the Pro western sources note Russia is operating in small independant 10-20 men operations now.

Also loo at the maps, only see the movement going one way as Ukraine loses settlement after settlement.

Post this conflict when the true numbers come out - the ghouls in this thread are gonna be faced with the number of Ukrainian losses are gonna have to look at themselves in the mirror long and hard about how they kept on pushing them to keep on dying

Maps of the wool regions of the North West?

 

[bluestevon]

Wow, reporting from UK saying that the losses in Kharkiv area higher than that suffered by the Chinese human waves sent to their deaths in the Korean war! What a horrendous waste of life.

So not only tens of thousands of Koreans now but apparently loads of Houthis being recruited

Oh and the rate in Kharkov of losses is the highest ever in the history of modern war, twice the attrition rate of the Somme during WW1

Just think about that for one second and if you believe it then I have some magic beans to sell you.

Oh the guys sources for numbers is the British, not at all a compromised source.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

So if the Russians cannot agree to an acceptable peace deal they could well be on there way to a million men lost or wounded be the end of next year!

Russia hits 700,000 casualties in Ukraine says Britain

British intelligence reveals over 700,000 Russian casualties in Ukraine plus the destruction of 3,558 tanks, 147 helicopters, 132 fixed-wing aircraft, more than 8,500 armoured vehicles, 1,750 artillery systems, and 26 warships.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

 

[Xizor]

So if the Russians cannot agree to an acceptable peace deal they could well be on there way to a million men lost or wounded be the end of next year!

Proper human tragedy driven by the Kremlin warmongers. We need peace. Surely it's time for Putin to suck it up and get around the table with some concessions ready.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Missing part of the sentence would be

But this is.... simply laughably unbelievable if you study what's actually been happening on the ground.

All from the same people these statistics who insist The Ukraine has lost less than 100k in total in nearly three years

But believe the propoganda and don't forget a second wonder how these numbers compute when one side has every single advantage in terms of missile strikes, air support an overwhelming artillery advantage, a manpower advantage, experience and training advantage and a shell advantage.

Or are we still believing the human wave bs which there's been pretty much no evidence evidence and even the Pro western sources note Russia is operating in small independant 10-20 men operations now.

Also loo at the maps, only see the movement going one way as Ukraine loses settlement after settlement.

Post this conflict when the true numbers come out - the ghouls in this thread are gonna be faced with the number of Ukrainian losses are gonna have to look at themselves in the mirror long and hard about how they kept on pushing them to keep on dying

Garbage lad. Get in the bin.

 

[davek]

"According to Joseph Fitsanakis, professor of intelligence and security studies at Coastal Carolina University, “Russian military production is currently outpacing that of the US and all of NATO member states combined."

Russia races ahead of NATO in arms production for Ukraine war: Report

A new SIPRI study lays bare how NATO is unable to turn spending power into firepower in a crisis.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[davek]

So if the Russians cannot agree to an acceptable peace deal they could well be on there way to a million men lost or wounded be the end of next year!

Russia hits 700,000 casualties in Ukraine says Britain

British intelligence reveals over 700,000 Russian casualties in Ukraine plus the destruction of 3,558 tanks, 147 helicopters, 132 fixed-wing aircraft, more than 8,500 armoured vehicles, 1,750 artillery systems, and 26 warships.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

Your figures for Russian fatalities might be taken seriously if you provided the figures for Ukranian fatalities.

Care to provide them?

 

[Eidean]

"According to Joseph Fitsanakis, professor of intelligence and security studies at Coastal Carolina University, “Russian military production is currently outpacing that of the US and all of NATO member states combined."

Russia races ahead of NATO in arms production for Ukraine war: Report

A new SIPRI study lays bare how NATO is unable to turn spending power into firepower in a crisis.

www.aljazeera.com

Of course it is, that’s not exactly shocking news is it?

 

[davek]

Of course it is, that’s not exactly shocking news is it?

It's a surprise given all the western media BS about NATO.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

"According to Joseph Fitsanakis, professor of intelligence and security studies at Coastal Carolina University, “Russian military production is currently outpacing that of the US and all of NATO member states combined."

Russia races ahead of NATO in arms production for Ukraine war: Report

A new SIPRI study lays bare how NATO is unable to turn spending power into firepower in a crisis.

www.aljazeera.com

They’re operating a wartime economy and have been for about a year now. So its old news.

However operating a wartime economy has its downside and that means minimal expenditure on civilian infrastructure and services. As a result their transport, health, civ manufacturing industries are on their knees.

The final irony being even though they’re producing a shed load of military vehicles and armaments they can’t keep pace with what they’re losing in combat on a daily/weekly/monthly basis,

 

[WA Toffee]

Missing part of the sentence would be

But this is.... simply laughably unbelievable if you study what's actually been happening on the ground.

All from the same people these statistics who insist The Ukraine has lost less than 100k in total in nearly three years

But believe the propoganda and don't forget a second wonder how these numbers compute when one side has every single advantage in terms of missile strikes, air support an overwhelming artillery advantage, a manpower advantage, experience and training advantage and a shell advantage.

Or are we still believing the human wave bs which there's been pretty much no evidence evidence and even the Pro western sources note Russia is operating in small independant 10-20 men operations now.

Also loo at the maps, only see the movement going one way as Ukraine loses settlement after settlement.

Post this conflict when the true numbers come out - the ghouls in this thread are gonna be faced with the number of Ukrainian losses are gonna have to look at themselves in the mirror long and hard about how they kept on pushing them to keep on dying

Can you share some of those posts where people are saying they want Ukranians to keep dying?

 

[davek]

They’re operating a wartime economy and have been for about a year now. So its old news.

However operating a wartime economy has its downside and that means minimal expenditure on civilian infrastructure and services. As a result their transport, health, civ manufacturing industries are on their knees.

The final irony being even though they’re producing a shed load of military vehicles and armaments they can’t keep pace with what they’re losing in combat on a daily/weekly/monthly basis,

Well, it certainly doesn't run to working class standards of living. Real incomes have risen by 6% on average due to a labour shortage, people have enough cash to bank some money and consumption levels are high with more Russians becoming home owners. These workers will back Putin 100%.

Waiting for Russia to implode is a forlorn policy.

If we want to end the bloodshed on both sides then the Ukraine regime needs to be dragged to the negotiating table in an effort to stop it killing more of their own citizens in a war that's already been lost.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Well, it certainly doesn't run to working class standards of living. Real incomes have risen by 6% on average due to a labour shortage, people have enough cash to bank some money and consumption levels are high for some with more Russians becoming home owners. These workers will back Putin 100%.

Income rises are in the main due to payouts for signing up to fight in Ukraine and also payouts when their loved ones come back in body bags.

How can an interest rate of 21% encourage business?

How can an inflation rate of 8.4% keep people happy.

Internal demand for goods and services in Russia is outstripping supply.

Going down the pan rapidly

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

It's a surprise given all the western media BS about NATO.

Been reported for months that Russia has turned itself into a war economy in a very focused way and the EU has lagged.

 

[davek]

Income rises are in the main due to payouts for signing up to fight in Ukraine and also payouts when their loved ones come back in body bags.

How can an interest rate of 21% encourage business?

How can an inflation rate of 8.4% keep people happy.

Internal demand for goods and services in Russia is outstripping supply.

Going down the pan rapidly

You know Russia could extend this war in perpetuity.

There is no end to the war as a result of Russia going bust.

If this is what you use to justify your view the war should continue with all the killing that results from it then it's a pretty weak basis for that justification.