Current Affairs Ukraine

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Spadge Vernacular said:
Putin is going to have to be forced to negotiate.
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I'm thinking short term, swallow some losses, lose the infrastructure of bussing in fresh troops to replace losses and injured, it makes the front line that bit closer. Can he pay em off long enough to see us support pulled and the onus fall on Europe entirely? The more Ukraine has to give up the longer it takes to repay all the support given thus far. What can Ukraine hit that is important enough to switch off the western part of russia?
 
What relevance that phone call between the bloke from Germany who's name escapes me and putin? This escalation in the same week. Who's calling the shots inside russia? There's only american satellite coverage that is reliable enough to allow this? is that correct?
 
Rita_Poon said:
What relevance that phone call between the bloke from Germany who's name escapes me and putin? This escalation in the same week. Who's calling the shots inside russia? There's only american satellite coverage that is reliable enough to allow this? is that correct?
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Ukraine doesn’t rely on US satellite intel. Not that the US would share it with a non NATO member anyhow. Instead Ukraine use ICEYE SAR satellite recon along with their own intel drones for targeting.

I can’t see that there’s any connection between the Schulz call to Putin and this escalation, more likely the Biden administration see it as a way to help Ukraine hold onto territory in Kursk and give them some leverage in negotiations when Trump takes over.
 
Mutzo Nutzo said:
Ukraine doesn’t rely on US satellite intel. Not that the US would share it with a non NATO member anyhow. Instead Ukraine use ICEYE SAR satellite recon along with their own intel drones for targeting.

I can’t see that there’s any connection between the Schulz call to Putin and this escalation, more likely the Biden administration see it as a way to help Ukraine hold onto territory in Kursk and give them some leverage in negotiations when Trump takes over.
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Who can see far enough into russia to make these new missiles count though? drones in the captured kursk region are a gimme already.
 
bluestevon said:
Not really, I dip in and out of many threads, including the footy ones - way more than you btw.

Nice dodging if a question about are Azov, right sector and Bandera Nazis or patriots though.

I'll answer yours - it's pretty easy - the invasion was predicted as being direct result of NATO expansion into Ukraine by people like Burns and Mearsheimer amongst others over 15 years ago.
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You can easily and profusely ignore anyone who quotes Mearsheimer.
 
tsubaki said:
Unless they've been given a whole load of ATACMS and other long range stuff in advance and they are ready to go, this is another stupid move.
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Zelensky's words about talk being cheap and missiles are missiles suggests it's another hollow gesture from Biden.
 
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