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Well it looks like Trump is getting in and US support for Ukraine will end.

I’ve got a bad feeling that the rest of Europe will be getting involved on the battlefield eventually.
 
Well it looks like Trump is getting in and US support for Ukraine will end.

I’ve got a bad feeling that the rest of Europe will be getting involved on the battlefield eventually.
The US won't end support for Ukraine... no US president or politicians will want their name remembered forever in American history as people who bowed to Russian aggression.
 
The US won't end support for Ukraine... no US president or politicians will want their name remembered forever in American history as people who bowed to Russian aggression.
Or remembered as the peace broker who stopped funding foreign wars. He did a deal to get the US out of Afghanistan without that much kickback.

I also would flip a coin to see what position Trump actually takes if he gets back in. He is highly unpredictable even though it looks like he'd be willing to put Ukraine into a position where they have to do a deal.
 
Or remembered as the peace broker who stopped funding foreign wars. He did a deal to get the US out of Afghanistan without that much kickback.

I also would flip a coin to see what position Trump actually takes if he gets back in. He is highly unpredictable even though it looks like he'd be willing to put Ukraine into a position where they have to do a deal.
It will end up that way in time anyway.
 
It will end up that way in time anyway.
I'd argue that they are there now. Any delay in getting a deal will result in thousands dead and injured on both sides for a slow but steady Russian grab of further lands.

Unless Russia make a huge gamble like try and cross the Dnieper after the fall of Krynky and it backfires then I don't see how Ukraine reverses the Russian advances.
 
I'd argue that they are there now. Any delay in getting a deal will result in thousands dead and injured on both sides for a slow but steady Russian grab of further lands.

Unless Russia make a huge gamble like try and cross the Dnieper after the fall of Krynky and it backfires then I don't see how Ukraine reverses the Russian advances.
It's not going to be easy negotiation.. Ukraine will have to give up lands and Russia will have to allow Ukraine to be aligned with NATO maybe not as a full member but certainly security guarantees from NATO.
 
It's not going to be easy negotiation.. Ukraine will have to give up lands and Russia will have to allow Ukraine to be aligned with NATO maybe not as a full member but certainly security guarantees from NATO.
Yep, and not hinder Ukraine not eventually joining the EU.

Conversely, Russia will want to return to the previous international relations. Probably made acceptable by western allies getting Russian funding to replace damaged infrastructure.
 
Mad the amount of dumb people on the far left are susceptible to Russian pro-Putin bots as much as MAGA and reform hogs are.

The “green and pleasant” Reddit is currently getting absolutely spammed by a Russian bot which has got the so called leftists clapping a Ukrainian woman being shot in the face by a Russian sniper. Absolutely deranged stuff
For anyone who wants to see the threads, look at the poster of this link’s history


Absolutely deranged stuff claiming the Soviet Union never invaded Afghanistan etc and they’re eating it up.
 
Mad the amount of dumb people on the far left are susceptible to Russian pro-Putin bots as much as MAGA and reform hogs are.

The “green and pleasant” Reddit is currently getting absolutely spammed by a Russian bot which has got the so called leftists clapping a Ukrainian woman being shot in the face by a Russian sniper. Absolutely deranged stuff
They target all segments, and do it well. Doesn't matter your persuasion, you're a target.
 
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