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[davids]

You sound rather down about it tbh

Realistic.

 

[davids]

The guy I watch most on this issue is “ History Legend “. A young guy who appears to spend all his time studying what’s going on out there.

Depends if you want your information in a cartoon form. Although he does get a lot right.I stick with Willy OAM. He's running an interview in a few days with a Polish fighter with the Ukrainian Legion who's been on the frontline for 15 months so that should give an accurate impartial overview of what's really happening.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

The Russians weren't trying to take Kharkiv. They were trying to create a buffer zone and lay fortifications / defences / prevent attacks on Russian territory. The more significant war theatre remains Donetsk.

Whatever their intentions - they're getting a good kicking

 

[davek]

You sound rather down about it tbh

Im not down about it at all.

It is what it is: a stalemate between two undemocratic and kleptocratic regimes.

 

[davek]

Whatever their intentions - they're getting a good kicking

Both sides have got that in the last 2 years.

The losses have been horrific, but one that can be borne by Russia more than Ukraine.

The latter's casualty rate has to have shattered the whole of Ukrainian society and placed massive stresses on it.

Out of a population of 36 million they've probably had about 80,000 military and civilian deaths, with millions more badly affected by the war who have been either injured, made homeless or fled the country.

It's too great a burden. Too much of a price to pay. They've been let down by their leaders badly.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Im not down about it at all.

It is what it is: a stalemate between two undemocratic and kleptocratic regimes.

You 100% seem peeved and look to be making excuses for Russian losses. Would not be the same if it were the other way round

 

[davek]

You 100% seem peeved and look to be making excuses for Russian losses. Would not be the same if it were the other way round

Russia have been winning this war for a year. They turned it round last summer. And I haven't and I'm not crowing about it, because I see the pair of them for what they are.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Both sides have got that in the last 2 years.

The losses have been horrific, but one that can be borne by Russia more than Ukraine.

The latter's casualty rate has to have shattered the whole of Ukrainian society and placed massive stresses on it.

Out of a population of 36 million they've probably had about 80,000 military and civilian deaths, with millions more badly affected by the war who have been either injured, made homeless or fled the country.

It's too great a burden. Too much of a price to pay. They've been let down by their leaders badly.

They've been let down by the West (US mainly). As a stand-alone entity they've done more than okay against a much stronger military power. They've sucked it up, learnt and adapted their tactics and strategies. Russia is running out of equipment - it cannot keep pace with the loss rate they are experiencing (even running a war-time economy). They are recruiting 30K mobiks a month just to replace their losses in the field.

Fear and ignorance keeps Putin and his cronies in power - Fear and ignorance drives their war. Ukraine fights for freedom and, its existential for them. They will never stop fighting, no matter the cost.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

They've been let down by the West (US mainly). As a stand-alone entity they've done more than okay against a much stronger military power. They've sucked it up, learnt and adapted their tactics and strategies. Russia is running out of equipment - it cannot keep pace with the loss rate they are experiencing (even running a war-time economy). They are recruiting 30K mobiks a month just to replace their losses in the field.

Fear and ignorance keeps Putin and his cronies in power - Fear and ignorance drives their war. Ukraine fights for freedom and, its existential for them. They will never stop fighting, no matter the cost.

Amen

 

[davek]

They've been let down by the West (US mainly). As a stand-alone entity they've done more than okay against a much stronger military power. They've sucked it up, learnt and adapted their tactics and strategies. Russia is running out of equipment - it cannot keep pace with the loss rate they are experiencing (even running a war-time economy). They are recruiting 30K mobiks a month just to replace their losses in the field.

Fear and ignorance keeps Putin and his cronies in power - Fear and ignorance drives their war. Ukraine fights for freedom and, its existential for them. They will never stop fighting, no matter the cost.

I don't think so. You cant expect a population to keep this level of effort up. The period is finite for total war like the Ukrainians are having to put up with.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

I don't think so. You cant expect a population to keep this level of effort up. The period is finite for total war like the Ukrainians are having to put up with.

The period is also finite for Putins rule. For all his gains in Donetsk and Luhansk;

. He has lost control over the northern Black Sea & Sea of Azov area.

. He has lost the ability to adequately defend and resupply Russian interests in Crimea

. He cannot defend critical military and infrastructure sites in Russia itself.

Not what you’d call a successful outcome given Russian losses.

 

[Ming the merciless]

Depends if you want your information in a cartoon form. Although he does get a lot right.I stick with Willy OAM. He's running an interview in a few days with a Polish fighter with the Ukrainian Legion who's been on the frontline for 15 months so that should give an accurate impartial overview of what's really happening.

He provides information you don’t get in the UK media. No surprise there though.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

The period is also finite for Putins rule. For all his gains in Donetsk and Luhansk;

. He has lost control over the northern Black Sea & Sea of Azov area.

. He has lost the ability to adequately defend and resupply Russian interests in Crimea

. He cannot defend critical military and infrastructure sites in Russia itself.

Not what you’d call a successful outcome given Russian losses.

If WW2 showed us anything it was how long populations can keep levels of effort up to defend themselves.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

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