Current Affairs Ukraine

[Kev The Rat]

The UK should swallow up the whole of Ireland because there’s plenty of Brits over there, they speak English and were part of the UK.

Isn’t that right @Kev The Rat ?

They’ve already done that to half of it

 

[davek]

With the yanks turning off the taps the EU are saying they'll step in with more finances for Ukraine...

European Union foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said on Sunday the bloc would increase military support to Ukraine, after the U.S. Congress passed a stopgap funding bill late on Saturday that omitted aid to Ukraine.

Borrell told a news conference during a visit to Kyiv that in the face of an “existential threat for Europe,” the “proposition on the table” showed the EU wanted to increase military aid to Ukraine.

He was speaking after his first in-person meeting with Ukrainian Defence Minister Rustem Umerov, who was appointed last month.

“Let’s see what will happen in the U.S., but from our side, we will continue supporting and increasing our support,” Borrell said, asked about the vote in Washington.

“Ukrainians are fighting with all their courage and capacities,” he said. If the EU wants them to be more successful, he added, “we have to provide them with better arms, and bigger”.

 

[Kev The Rat]

With the yanks turning off the taps the EU are saying they'll step in with more finances for Ukraine...

Tbf Dave I think the issue now is less about money but more about the fact that they’re running out of weapons to send them.

 

[tommye]

Tbf Dave I think the issue now is less about money but more about the fact that they’re running out of weapons to send them.

They could send you and Dave?

 

[davek]

Tbf Dave I think the issue now is less about money but more about the fact that they’re running out of weapons to send them.

The UK are still a major source. As said the other day though: Germany and Poland are looking to rebuild their own arsenals. China also looking to cut out sales of commercial drones.

That Republican kick in the teeth is going to be a worry for Kyiv.

 

[Kev The Rat]

The UK are still a major source. As said the other day though: Germany and Poland are looking to rebuild their own arsenals. China also looking to cut out sales of commercial drones.

That Republican kick in the teeth is going to be a worry for Kyiv.

The true military cost of the war in Ukraine at the moment exceeds 1.5 trillion USD and the reconstruction more than 5 trillion USD. Of course you never hear that from the West nor IMF or World Bank. It would freak out the US,UK and EU taxpayers.

 

[Rita_Poon]

If Europe collectively puts their hand in the pocket, who's the main supplier they buy from...

This is mana from heaven for the US, more production, more supply, more units sold, more upgrades, and Nato expanded and the 2% guarantee reinforced.

The longer this lasts, the more work is done on nuclear and renewables to distance European need away from russian energy. It's actually harming them longer term.

What a set of headaches on top of a war being waged and slow encroaching losses. Freedom in Crimea day will be quite the spectacle if they can get it.

 

[roydo]

The true military cost of the war in Ukraine at the moment exceeds 1.5 trillion USD and the reconstruction more than 5 trillion USD. Of course you never hear that from the West nor IMF or World Bank. It would freak out the US,UK and EU taxpayers.

But you know.

 

[Kev The Rat]

But you know.

Those are the figures I’ve been quoted

But tbf, It could be less, as a ukro life means nothing to these people

As several big USA politicians have said using ukrainian soldiers to grind down the RF military is a very cheap bargain.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Great story.

Pensioner in his garden f-d up a load of Chechens in Bucha with an RPG and a handful of grenades then called in an arty strike on them

Ukrainian Pensioner Who Took On Russian Column Shares Phone Video Of Destruction

When pensioner Valentyn Didkovskiy saw a Russian column rolling past his house on February 27, he picked up a captured grenade launcher and blew up a fuel truck, sending the invasion into chaos and captured the destruction in a mobile-phone video.

www.rferl.org

 

[roydo]

Those are the figures I’ve been quoted

But tbf, It could be less, as a ukro life means nothing to these people

As several big USA politicians have said using ukrainian soldiers to grind down the RF military is a very cheap bargain.

Source would be good.

They maybe ball park, who knows? (except Kev). Big bill for Vlad if so mind.

 

[davek]

The true military cost of the war in Ukraine at the moment exceeds 1.5 trillion USD and the reconstruction more than 5 trillion USD. Of course you never hear that from the West nor IMF or World Bank. It would freak out the US,UK and EU taxpayers.

The loss to world trade is estimated at $2.8 trillion according to the WSJ.

IMF report saying - excluding military finances - the Ukrainian funding package alone lies at $115 billion.

 

[davek]

Slovakia...

Basically - support for Ukraine on a humanitarian basis but no to providing any more weapons.

Robert Fico doubles down on pro-Russia stance after Slovakia election win

Populist Smer leader, who has pledged to end military aid to Ukraine, says he is ready to open talks on forming a coalition government

www.theguardian.com

Though its only €47M donated so far in military aid so that's not a game changer in any way.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Tbf Dave I think

Stop with the lies.

 

[peteblue]

Slovakia...

Basically - support for Ukraine on a humanitarian basis but no to providing any more weapons.

Robert Fico doubles down on pro-Russia stance after Slovakia election win

Populist Smer leader, who has pledged to end military aid to Ukraine, says he is ready to open talks on forming a coalition government

www.theguardian.com

Though its only €47M donated so far in military aid so that's not a game changer in any way.

It’s a bit like Kirkby saying it will no longer export arms to the USA…might sound good in the papers but completely irrelevant…….